1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuzes 1er Klasse & 2er Klasse 1914

[meyle77]

Hi,

Need some help on those - my research points to EK 1 spange being ESP (Eugen Schmidthaussler from Pforzheim) but can id EK 2 spange.

Again, I am not sure if they are original to begin with.

Thanks,
George

[rbminis]

IMO, you are correct on the 1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuzes 1er Klasse 1914, it is an Eugen Schmidthaussler.

The 1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuzes 2er Klasse 1914 is a fake, IMO.
Ralph.

Please post them separately next time George.

[meyle77]

IMO, you are correct on the 1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuzes 1er Klasse 1914, it is an Eugen Schmidthaussler.

The 1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuzes 2er Klasse 1914 is a fake, IMO.
Ralph.

Please post them separately next time George.

Thanks - will do once i have better photos

[meyle77]

New photos...

[rbminis]

The EK I spange is definitely an Eugen Schmidthaussler.
The EK II spange could be an L/10, Deschler.
Take a look at post #3 in this thread.
1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuzes 2er Klasse 1914 second model
Ralph.

[meyle77]

The EK I spange is definitely an Eugen Schmidthaussler.
The EK II spange could be an L/10, Deschler.
Take a look at post #3 in this thread.
1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuzes 2er Klasse 1914 second model
Ralph.

Thank you and my research led me to believe the same.

[meyle77]

on another note, I was told the EK1 is a raptor fake and EK2 is possibly also a fake or Schinkel...

[rbminis]

on another note, I was told the EK1 is a raptor fake and EK2 is possibly also a fake or Schinkel...

After doing some more checking, the EK I spange is a fake. It is not a raptor fake though, the raptor fake obverse resembles a Mayer more so than a Schmidthaussler. I'm not sure what it is yet.
I don't hold out much hope for the other one under the circumstances.
Ralph.

[paulscoot]

Here is my original ESP spange for comparison. Regards, Paul

[meyle77]

Both went back home ;-)