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1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuzes 1er Klasse & 2er Klasse 1914

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    Hi,

    Need some help on those - my research points to EK 1 spange being ESP (Eugen Schmidthaussler from Pforzheim) but can id EK 2 spange.

    Again, I am not sure if they are original to begin with.

    Thanks,
    George
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    1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuzes 1er Klasse & 2er Klasse 1914   1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuzes 1er Klasse & 2er Klasse 1914  

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    Last edited by rbminis; 10-25-2018 at 09:57 PM. Reason: Edited title to use the correct German terminology.

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    IMO, you are correct on the 1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuzes 1er Klasse 1914, it is an Eugen Schmidthaussler.

    The 1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuzes 2er Klasse 1914 is a fake, IMO.
    Ralph.

    Please post them separately next time George.
    Searching for anything relating to, Anton Boos, 934 Stamm. Kp. Pz. Erz. Abt. 7, 3 Kompanie, Panzer-Regiment 2, 16th Panzer-Division (My father)

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    Quote by rbminis View Post
    IMO, you are correct on the 1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuzes 1er Klasse 1914, it is an Eugen Schmidthaussler.

    The 1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuzes 2er Klasse 1914 is a fake, IMO.
    Ralph.

    Please post them separately next time George.
    Thanks - will do once i have better photos

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    New photos...
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    1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuzes 1er Klasse & 2er Klasse 1914   1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuzes 1er Klasse & 2er Klasse 1914  

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    The EK I spange is definitely an Eugen Schmidthaussler.
    The EK II spange could be an L/10, Deschler.
    Take a look at post #3 in this thread.
    1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuzes 2er Klasse 1914 second model
    Ralph.
    Searching for anything relating to, Anton Boos, 934 Stamm. Kp. Pz. Erz. Abt. 7, 3 Kompanie, Panzer-Regiment 2, 16th Panzer-Division (My father)

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    Quote by rbminis View Post
    The EK I spange is definitely an Eugen Schmidthaussler.
    The EK II spange could be an L/10, Deschler.
    Take a look at post #3 in this thread.
    1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuzes 2er Klasse 1914 second model
    Ralph.
    Thank you and my research led me to believe the same.

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    on another note, I was told the EK1 is a raptor fake and EK2 is possibly also a fake or Schinkel...

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    Quote by meyle77 View Post
    on another note, I was told the EK1 is a raptor fake and EK2 is possibly also a fake or Schinkel...
    After doing some more checking, the EK I spange is a fake. It is not a raptor fake though, the raptor fake obverse resembles a Mayer more so than a Schmidthaussler. I'm not sure what it is yet.
    I don't hold out much hope for the other one under the circumstances.
    Ralph.
    Searching for anything relating to, Anton Boos, 934 Stamm. Kp. Pz. Erz. Abt. 7, 3 Kompanie, Panzer-Regiment 2, 16th Panzer-Division (My father)

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    Here is my original ESP spange for comparison. Regards, Paul

    1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuzes 1er Klasse & 2er Klasse 1914

    1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuzes 1er Klasse & 2er Klasse 1914
    Last edited by paulscoot; 11-04-2018 at 07:39 PM.

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    Both went back home ;-)

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