I found this among my late grandfather's belongings. He served in the US Army at a Texas POW camp during World War II. I assume this came from one of his charges. Does it appear to be authentic?
Thanks!
Myles
I found this among my late grandfather's belongings. He served in the US Army at a Texas POW camp during World War II. I assume this came from one of his charges. Does it appear to be authentic?
Thanks!
Myles
Last edited by Adrian; 05-10-2010 at 09:36 PM. Reason: Terminology changed, photos uploaded to server.
It's a well worn combat veteran but definately authentic. Possibly by maker Steinhauer & Luck. A nice cross with plenty of charater.
Looking for LDO marked EK2s and items relating to U-406.....
Hi Myles
Yes it looks fine. Is the centre made from brass? or is it magnetic? If it's brass then it's a naval one
Nice EK1! It's a shame that it's bent, but the worn swastika and date give it a really nice look. Lucky find!
I'm going to have to disagree with John on the above point.
The myth that brass, copper or any other non magnetic material cored EKs were for naval personnel is a tough one to break because it's been around for a long time. Basically the theory is that these crosses were reserved for the Kriegsmarine to wear at sea and due to the materials used, wouldn't rust on exposure to sea/salt air.
Non magnetic EKs are of early manufacture, prior to the establishment of the LDO in 1941 who standardised the construction of awards and disallowed any non standard materials.
The myth can be dispelled by the fact that non magnetic EKs with provenance being awarded to Heer and Luftwaffe personnel and magnetic awards being awarded to Kriegsmarine sailors.
When the awards were presented, there was no way of knowing which were magnetic and which weren't - unless they had been unpacked and tested by a magnet before bestowal, which could be considered highly unlikely.
Another point worth noting is that some non magnetic crosses were made from zinc, tombak or buntmetal. These materials will corrode just as easily as iron.
Looking for LDO marked EK2s and items relating to U-406.....
Thanks, all! I wish my grandfather was still around to explain the origins of this piece. I'm not sure about the materials used, but I'd guess at least part of the medal is made of brass.
Best,
Myles
It's a nice cross Miles, hang on to it.
Regards, Steve.
Did that make sense?? Phew! My fingers get tied when I type - mainly due to a lack of co-ordination between them and my mind.
As an additional point, the other myths surrounding non magnetic EKs concern the stories regarding the issue to U-boat crews. Apparently the non magnetic cores weren't supposed to interfere with the magnetic compass on board. The U-boats actually used Gyro compasses on which there would've been no affect. There are also similar stories about issue to Luftwaffe aircrew for the same reasons. If you consider how many branches of service used a magnetic compass while wearing helmets, sitting in or near tanks or other vehicles, being on a boat, carrying a gun or being close to any metal items it would seem that a small amount of iron in a cross would be a very minor influence.
These tales are told by dealers hoping to score a few extra £/$/€.
Looking for LDO marked EK2s and items relating to U-406.....
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