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Eisernes Kreuz 2. Klasse, 65, K&Q

Article about: by Adrian Ralph, it's nice cross but to be honest, I'm don't think this is a Klein & Quenzer. The dates don't match and nor does the frame. The reverse date is a dead ringer for a '56' -

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    Ralph, it's nice cross but to be honest, I'm don't think this is a Klein & Quenzer. The dates don't match and nor does the frame. The reverse date is a dead ringer for a '56' - Robert Hauschild.
    Well, I do not have one of those yet so, I guess I will have to keep my eyes open for another K&Q.
    Ralph.
    Searching for anything relating to, Anton Boos, 934 Stamm. Kp. Pz. Erz. Abt. 7, 3 Kompanie, Panzer-Regiment 2, 16th Panzer-Division (My father)

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    There are a few posted here including my example, I found it searching for 'Hauschild'.
    Last edited by Adrian; 05-19-2012 at 09:58 AM. Reason: Typo.

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    Good eyes Adrian! I never would have seen that. The dates on Ralph's cross show some similarities with the ones on a K&Q.

    Regards

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    Thanks Ingrid, you are right, there are similarities on the obverse date but the sharp 'hook' on the '3' is not found on K&Q dates.
    Below is a montage of dates found on K&Q cores put together by Robert Pierce. Some are different by design following re-working or new dies and some reflect die wear giving the impression of a re-worked die.
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    You have a good eye indeed Adrian

    Not a common cross Ralph certainly less common than a K&Q


    EK2 Robert Hauschild Pforzheim

    Nick
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    Hi Nick,
    I think I will keep this one and mark it for what it truly is and continue to keep my eyes open for another unmarked, nice K&Q.
    Ralph.
    Searching for anything relating to, Anton Boos, 934 Stamm. Kp. Pz. Erz. Abt. 7, 3 Kompanie, Panzer-Regiment 2, 16th Panzer-Division (My father)

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    Hi Ralph,

    That's a great Hauschild cross alright (well spotted Adrian!).

    Sorry you couldn't see my image of the other forum - (damned external photo hosting site, I spent ages uploading all the different PKZ makers crosses and very few of them are there anymore).
    Anyhow, here's the image of my one again (since sold off, but hey, I can still show my pictures!)

    Regards - Danny

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    Thanks Danny!
    Still sorry to hear that you had to sell off a lot of your collection.
    Ralph.
    Searching for anything relating to, Anton Boos, 934 Stamm. Kp. Pz. Erz. Abt. 7, 3 Kompanie, Panzer-Regiment 2, 16th Panzer-Division (My father)

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    Quote by rbminis View Post
    Thanks Danny!
    Still sorry to hear that you had to sell off a lot of your collection.
    Ralph.
    No worries Ralph,
    The RK is helping me deal with my loss.
    Regards - Danny

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    No worries Ralph,
    The RK is helping me deal with my loss.
    Regards - Danny
    Glad to hear that Danny!
    Ralph.
    Searching for anything relating to, Anton Boos, 934 Stamm. Kp. Pz. Erz. Abt. 7, 3 Kompanie, Panzer-Regiment 2, 16th Panzer-Division (My father)

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