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Eisernes Kreuz 2. Klasse, L/11, Deumer

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    Well played Ralph. Nice

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    Very nice Deumer. Congratulations, Ralph. Merry Christmas, indeed!

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    Well played Ralph. Nice
    Thank you!
    Ralph.

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    Very nice Deumer. Congratulations, Ralph. Merry Christmas, indeed!
    Thank you Roger!
    Ralph.
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    This cross arrived today. I believe that someone made a mistake when it was sold to me. I have never seen a Deumer with this kind of texture but, then again, I do not always recognise the trademarks of a Deumer.
    After taking photos and enlarging them, I found that I believe it is maker marked L/10, Deschler. I have done a little research and found the examples that I have seen have a hump where the jump ring is attached. I have added new photos and would appreciate if someone would be able to verify if what I am seeing is correct or not.
    I have taken photos of the frame as well.
    Thanks in advance,
    Ralph.
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    Strange one Ralph. It is of course a Deumer frame and a Deumer core, there are no Deschler features there whatsoever. The maker's mark doesn't look like the last digit is a '1' either.

    But - looking at the mark, the top half is missing yet we can clearly see a small 'o', not the bottom half of a bigger '0'. So it's either a real L/11 with a poor makers mark or its marked as something else. L/16? L/18? Neither of which used an incuse stamp such as above to the best of my memory.

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    I fully agree with Adrian, its a bit of a mystery this one! I just love mystery crosses

    Nick
    "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem

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    Thanks Adrian and Nick!
    I will do my best to find out what it is.
    Ralph.
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    I love the look of that core Ralph!
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    Well, I have taken some more photos and this is what I have come up with.
    It would appear that the second "1" in L/11 has a dent on the stem. These photos are of the same ring, I have just changed the camera angle and the light angle.
    Ralph.
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    Wow! Thanks Ralph. What a difference a different angle and different lighting can make.

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