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Eisernes Kreuz 2nd class.

Article about: Hi all! As i'am not expert on german medals. Could you give me your oppinions on this iron cross. I bought it a year ago. But now i have suspect it is a fake, for some reason. Thanks!

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    Hi all!

    As i'am not expert on german medals. Could you give me your oppinions on this iron cross. I bought it a year ago. But now i have suspect it is a fake, for some reason.

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    Any pics?

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    Quote by Adrian View Post
    Any pics?
    Now there are. Stupid me forgot to post them

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    No problems here, a good, original cross and ribbon. Definitely not a fake!

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    Thanks! Glad to hear that!

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    Good original cross.
    I can´t recognize the maker, but someone else maybe will..

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    Quote by Snni View Post
    Good original cross.
    I can´t recognize the maker, but someone else maybe will..
    I'm thinking maker '123'. Anyone else got a thought?

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    Nice cross Could be a 123 Adrian !

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    Do you have some kind of list with the makers names? Where this 123 model has been made?

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    Quote by Comrade View Post
    Do you have some kind of list with the makers names? Where this 123 model has been made?
    Here are a complete maker list:

    Präsidialkanzlei Numbers

    1 Deschler &Sohn München
    2 C.E. Juncker Berlin
    3 Wilhelm Deumer Lüdenscheid
    4 Steinhauer & Lück Lüdenscheid
    5 Hermann Wernstein Jena-Lobstedt
    6 Fritz Zimmermann Stuttgart
    7 Paul Meybauer Berlin
    8 Ferdinand Hoffstädter Bonn a. Rhein
    9 Liefergemeinschaft Schmuckhandwerker Pforzheim
    10 Foerster & Barth Pforzheim
    11 Grossmann & Co. Wien
    12 Frank & Reif Stuttgart-Zuffenhausen
    13 Gustav Brehmer Markneukirchen/Sa
    14 L. Chr. Lauer Nürnberg-W
    15 Friedrich Orth Wien
    16 Alois Rettenmaier Schwäbisch-Gmünd
    17 (Unknown)
    18 Karl Wurster K.G. Markneukirchen/Sa
    19 E. Ferd. Wiedmann Frankfurt/Main
    20 C.F. Zimmermann Pforzheim
    21 Gebr. Godet & Co. Berlin
    22 Boerger & Co. Berlin
    23 Arbeitsgemeinschaft für Heeresbedarf in der Graveur- und Ziselierinnung Berlin
    24 Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Hanauer Plakettenhersteller Hanau
    25 Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveur-, Gold- und Silberschemiedeinnungen Hanau
    26 B. H. Mayer's Kunst-prägeanstalt Pforzheim
    27 Anton Schenkl's Nachf. Wien
    28 Eugen Schmidthausser Pforzheim
    29 Hauptmünzamt Berlin
    30 Hauptmünzamt Wien
    31 Hans Gnad Wien
    32 W. Hobacher Wien
    33 Friedrich Linden Lüdenscheid
    34 Willy Annetsberger München
    35 F.W. Assmann & Sohn Lüdenscheid
    36 Bury & Leonhard Hanau a. M
    37 Ad. Baumeister Lüdenscheid
    38 (Unknown)
    39 Rudolf Berge Gablonz a.d.N.
    40 Berg & Nolte Lüdenscheid
    41 Geb. Bender Oberstein/Nahe
    42 Biedermann & Co. Oberkassel b/Bonn
    43 Julius Bauer Sohne Zella Mehlis/Thür.
    44 Jakob Bengel Idar/Oberdonau
    45 Franz Jungwirth Wien
    46 Hans Doppler Wels/Oberdonau
    47 Erhard & Söhne A.G. Schwäbisch Gmünd
    48 Richard Feix Gablonz a.d.N.
    49 Josef Feix Söhne Gablonz a.d.N.
    50 Karl Gschiermeister Wien
    51 Eduard Goriach & Söhne Gablonz/N.
    52 Gottlieb & Wagner Idar/Oberstein
    53 Glaser & Söhne Dresden
    54 (Unknown)
    55 J.E. Hammer & Söhne Geringswalde
    56 Robert Hauschild Pforzheim
    57 Karl Hensler Pforzheim
    58 Artur Jakel & Co. Gablonz/N.
    59 Louis Keller Oberstein
    60 Katz & Deyhle Pforzheim
    61 Rudolf A. Karneth & Söhne Gablonz a.N.
    62 Kerbach & Oesterhelt Dresden
    63 Franz Klamt & Söhne Adlergasse 25, Gablonz a.N.
    64 Gottl. Fr. Keck & Sohn Pforzheim
    65 Klein & Quenzer A.G. Idar/Oberstein
    66 Freidrich Keller Oberstein
    67 H. Kreisel Gablonz a.N.
    68 Alfred Knobloch Gablonz a.N.
    69 Alois Klammer Innsbruck
    70 Lind & Meyrer Oberstein a.d.N.
    71 Rudolf Leukert Oberstein a.d.N.
    72 Franz Lipp Pforzheim
    73 Franz Manert Gablonz a.N.
    74 Carl Maurer Sohn Oberstein/Nahe
    75 (Unknown)
    76 Ernst L. Müller Pforzheim
    77 Bayer. Hauptmünzamt München
    78 Gustav Miksch Gablonz/N.
    79 (Unknown)
    80 G.H. Osang Dresden
    81 Overhoff & Cie Lüdenscheid
    82 Augustin Prager Gablonz a.N.
    83 Emll Peukert Gablonz a.N.
    84 Carl Poellath Schrobenhausen
    85 Julius Pletsch Gablonz/N.
    86 Paulmann & Crone Lüdenscheid
    87 Roman Palme Gablonz a.N.
    88 Werner Redo Saarlautern
    89 Rudolf Richter Schlag 244 b. Gablonz
    90 Aug. F. Richter K.G. Hamburg
    91 Josef Rossler & Co. Gablonz a.d.N.
    92 Josef Rücker & Sohn Gablonz a.d.N.
    93 Richard Simm & Sohne Gablonz a.d.N.
    94 (Unknown)
    95 Adolf Scholze Grunwald a.d.N.
    96 (Unknown)
    97 (Unknown)
    98 Rudolf Souval Wien
    99 Schwertner & Cle. Eggenberg
    100 Rudolf Wächtler & Lange Mittweida
    101 Rudolf Tam Gablonz a.d.N.
    102 Philipp Turks Ww. Wien
    103 Aug. G. Tam Gablonz a.d.N.
    104 Hein. Ulbricht's Ww. Kaufing b/Schwanenstadt
    105 Heinrich Vogt Pforzheim
    106 Brüder Schneider A.G. Wien
    107 Carl Wild Hamburg
    108 Arno Wallpach Salzburg
    109 Walter & Henlein Gablonz a.d.N.
    110 Otto Zappe Gablonz a.d.N.
    111 Ziemer & Sohne Oberstein
    112 Argentor Werke Rust & Hetzel Wien
    113 Hermann Aurich Dresden
    114 Ludwig Bertsch Karlsruhe
    115 (Unknown)
    116 Funke & Brünninghaus Lüdenscheid
    117 Hugo Lang Wiesenthal a.N.
    118 August Menzs & Sohn Wien
    119 (Unknown)
    120 Franz Petzl Wien
    121 (Unknown)
    122 JJ. Stahl Strassburg
    123 Beck, Hassinger & Co. Strassburg
    124 Rudolf Schanes Wien
    125 Eugen Gauss Pforzheim
    126 Eduard Hahn Oberstein/Nahe
    127 Moritz Hausch A.G. Pforzheim
    128 S. Jablonski G.m.b.H. Posen
    129 Fritz Kohm Pforzheim
    130 Wilh. Schroder & Co. Lüdenscheid
    131 Heinrich Wander Gablonz
    132 Franz Reischauer Oberstein
    133 (Unknown)
    134 Otto Klein & Co. Hanau
    135 Julius Moser sen Oberstein
    136 J.Wagner & Sohn Berlin
    137 J.H. Werner Berlin
    138 Julius Maurer Oberstein
    139 Hymmen & Co. Lüdenscheid
    140 Schauerte & Hohfeld Lüdenscheid
    141 Sohni, Heubach & Co Oberstein
    142 A.D. Schwerdt Stuttgart


    Licensed LDO Companies

    L/10 Deschler & Sohn, München 9 Wirthstrasse 9
    L/11 Wilhelm Deumer Lüdenscheid, Postfach 161
    L/12 C.E. Junker, Berlin SW 68, Alte Jakobstr. 13
    L/13 Paul Meybauer Berlin SW 68, Junkerstraße 19
    L/14 Friedrich Orth Wien VI/56 Schmalzhofgasse 18
    L/15 Otto Schickle Pforzheim
    L/16 Steinhauer & Lück Lüdenscheid
    L/17 Hermann Wernstein Jena Löbstedt
    L/18 B.H. Mayer's, Hofkunstprägeanstalt Pforzheim
    L/19 Ferdinand Hoffstätter Bonn/Rhein Postfach 161
    L/21 Foerster & Barth Pforzheim Tunnelstr. 71
    L/22 Glaser & Sohn Dresden-A. Borngasse 5
    L/23 Julius Maurer Oberstein/Nahe
    L/24 Fritz Zimmermann, Stuttgart-W. Silberburgstr. 58a
    L/25 A.E. Kochert Wien 1 Neuer Markt 15
    L/26 Klein & Quenzer Oberstein/Nahe
    L/50 Gebr. Godet & Co. Berlin W8 Jagerstr. 19
    L/51 E. Ferd. Wiedmann Frankfurt-M. S-10 Schifferstr. 52-54
    L/52 C.F. Zimmermann Pforzheim Dr. Fritz-Todt-Str. 55
    L/53 Hymmen & Co. Lüdenscheid
    L/54 Schauerte & Hohfeld Lüdenscheid
    L/55 Wächtler & Lange Rudolf Mittweida/Sa.
    L/56 Funcke & Brüninghaus Lüdenscheid
    L/57 Boerger & Co., Berlin SO 16 Adalbertstr. 42
    L/58 Rudolf Souval VII/62 Strasse Der Julikampfer 23 Wien
    L/59 Alois Rettenmaier Schwäbisch-Gmünd Parlerstr. 27
    L/60 Gustav Brehmer Markneukirchen/SA (GB)
    L/61 Friedrich Linden Lüdenscheid (FLL)
    L/62 Werner Redo Saarlautern
    L/63 G.H. Osang Dresden, A-1 Neue Gasse 30
    L/64 F.A. Assmann & Söhne Gartenstraße, Lüdenscheid (A)
    L/65 Dr. Franke & Co. Lüdenscheid
    L/66 A.D. Schwerdt Stuttgart-S, Splittlerstr. 36

    Note that not all made Eisernes Kreuz.

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