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Article about: Hi guys, I have been offered a couple of Iron Crosses for trade and wanted to get some opinions on them. I cant make it out but the cross on the right is does show a makers mark. What do you

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    Default Eisernes Kreuz a couple more

    Hi guys,

    I have been offered a couple of Iron Crosses for trade and wanted to get some opinions on them. I cant make it out but the cross on the right is does show a makers mark.
    What do you guys think?

    Thanks
    Kirby
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    Default Re: Eisernes Kreuz a couple more

    Both are good original EKs Kirby. The example on the right might be a '123' but better pics are needed to be absolutely sure.

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    Quote by AdrianC View Post
    Both are good original EKs Kirby. The example on the right might be a '123' but better pics are needed to be absolutely sure.
    I totally agree with Adrian, and the EKII 1914 is 90% might be a "CD" ( Carl Dillenius) pheraps "800" is added (800 not is present on all crosses).
    Caracteristic are the "number fonts" and the very low position inside the 6 'o clock arm .

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    Thank you both very much! When I get the crosses Ill post the details.
    Kirby

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    Hello there,

    While both are good period crosses I believe the TR version to have a replacement ribbon.

    William Kramer
    Us and them - and after all were only ordinary men. Me, and you - God only knows its not what we would choose to do. Forward he cried from the rear, and the front rank died, and the general sat and the lines on the map moved from side to side.

    - US & THEM, THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON - PINK FLOYD

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    Default Re: Eisernes Kreuz a couple more

    William, I kind of suspected that as well. Thanks for commenting on it.
    Kirby

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    Quote by all1knew View Post
    Hello there,

    While both are good period crosses I believe the TR version to have a replacement ribbon.

    William Kramer
    Hi William,
    Do you mean a replacement period ribbon or a fake ribbon?

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    Quote by AdrianC View Post
    Hi William,
    Do you mean a replacement period ribbon or a fake ribbon?
    Either. We can't tell anything from these photos except that the ribbon does not belong to the cross. When he gets it and looks into it further we'll find out if it is a reproduction or periord replacement.

    William Kramer
    Us and them - and after all were only ordinary men. Me, and you - God only knows its not what we would choose to do. Forward he cried from the rear, and the front rank died, and the general sat and the lines on the map moved from side to side.

    - US & THEM, THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON - PINK FLOYD

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    I do agree that looking at the condition of the cross against the condition of the ribbon they didn't start out together but the replacement ribbon looks period.
    It will be interesting to see when the better pics are posted.

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    Here is some more pictures of the cross in question or ribbon in question. The maker mark is hard to read but I believe its 123 Beck Hassinger & Co. The ribbon is an original but as far as being original to the cross I dont know. It does appear to be in much better shape then the cross although the photo makes it look better then it really is.

    The 1914 cross does appear to have a maker mark but its not legible. May be the better photos will reveal the maker?

    Thanks again for the help everyone!

    Kirby
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