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    Hello..I am researching of this Eisernes Kreuz II Klasse for someone that picked this up at a flea market with little luck. What I am looking for is how to tell the maker if there are no markings. Ade has confirmed(thanks Ade) that it is good.
    Thank you in advance for your help...Jim
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    My initial thought is that this EKII is an unmarked Deumer, i.e. maker number '3' (Wilhelm Deumer, Ludenscheld). Wait for more replies to confirm this though Jim, as Adrian and Nick should hopefully see this thread soon and both of those guys are excellent at recognising the EK makers.

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    Carl
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    I thought it might be a Souval based on the 'crows feet' frame?

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    Hi Jim

    Its a Meybauer IMO.

    The inner corners rule out a Deumer or a Souval as they are much more rounded.

    Adrian will confirm, he is the main man !

    Nick
    "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem

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    Quote by Stickgrenade View Post
    Hi Jim

    Its a Meybauer IMO.

    The inner corners rule out a Deumer or a Souval as they are much more rounded.

    Adrian will confirm, he is the main man !

    Nick
    Sir, you are FAR too modest. Not that I am questioning Adrian's expertise in this area mind, you two could write a book. I concentrated on the date too much, and having looked at the inner frame I now see where I went wrong. Funny, because I also looked at a Meybauer...albeit a very salty one!

    Regards,

    Carl
    Experienced guide and published author leading detailed study trips to the former KZ sites of Nazi Germany. Contact for further details.

    www.concentrationcamptours.com

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    Thank you Glenn, Carl and Nick for your prompt reply's. I will pass this information on. Jim

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    Quote by jamped55 View Post
    Thank you Glenn, Carl and Nick for your prompt reply's. I will pass this information on. Jim
    I would still wait for Adrians stamp !

    Nick
    "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem

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    The dates aren't by Meybauer, it's a '52' or '55' in my opinion. I would like to see a closer pic of the dates though.

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    Adrian...are these pic's good enough? Thanks Jim
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    Much better, thanks Jim, can you also get any shots of the inner corners next to the swastika as well please?

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