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Eisernes Kreuz / Iron Cross - MM = 800 4

Article about: Iron Cross AKA Eisernes Kreuz- w/ loop + ribbon - good condition (some chipping along edges). M.M. = 800 4 (on back of medal at top edge) Pics below <items #141> Is this authentic? val

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    Default Eisernes Kreuz / Iron Cross - MM = 800 4

    Iron Cross AKA Eisernes Kreuz- w/ loop + ribbon - good condition (some chipping along edges). M.M. = 800 4 (on back of medal at top edge)

    Pics below <items #141>

    Is this authentic? value?

    Thanks
    KP
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    hi all,

    just bumping this up to see if anybody has any clue about this piece?

    Thnx

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    not in my opinion,,,

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    Ribbon loop looks wrong to me could be orig but thier other members that would know for sure bump for help.

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    It is a low grade copy of the Knight's Crooss. It has incorrect marks for the firm of Steinhauer and Lueck, Ludenschied, Germany. It doess no possess any of the attributes of original St&L Knight's Crosses.



    Bob Hritz

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    I completely agree with Bob. A very poor fake with no characteristics of a genuine S&L RK.

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    Hello,

    I'm new to the site..I picked up this Knights cross marked with an 800 and an inverse 4...I believe it is a Steinhauer & Lück type...I would like your comments...core is magnetic.
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    Quote by ssowards View Post
    Hello,

    I'm new to the site..I picked up this Knights cross marked with an 800 and an inverse 4...I believe it is a Steinhauer & Lück type...I would like your comments...core is magnetic.
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    Hello and welcome to the forum.

    Far from a genuine S&L, unfortunately, your cross is a well known fake, commonly referred to as 'the New Rounder'. There are plenty of threads about these fakes, just search for 'new rounder'. They are now even making one piece fakes of these fakes.

    Sadly the case, too is a modern piece and looks nothing like a typical wartime case.
    I wish I could have given you better news.

    Regards - Danny

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    that's ok...I learn something new everyday...just got my cash back...gentleman was surprised by the news...or hes a really good actor....wish it was real...still don't have one

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    Hi and welcome to the Forum. This is a Knights Cross - 'Ritterkreuz'.
    An original, cased cross like this should sell for about $8,000 or
    thereabouts. I'd have wanted to know if it were original or not
    BEFORE laying out that amount of cash.........
    Regards,


    Steve.

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