EK1 Good or fake?

[Woolgar]

The seller must have a job lot Mark

Nick

[HD1450]

The seller must have a job lot Mark

Nick

Sure thing Nick , but the trouble is that there will be plenty of novice collectors who will snap them up , i was caught with one when i first started . These are one of the easiest fakes too spot once you have some knowledge behind you

[Woolgar]

Agreed, and I cant believe how often these buggers keep appearing on the scene.

It also amazes me why fakers would use a spurious number like 51 !

Nick

[HD1450]

Agreed, and I cant believe how often these buggers keep appearing on the scene.

It also amazes me why fakers would use a spurious number like 51 !

Nick

I also have wondered why they use 51 , it's the same with the 333 EK2's , why dont they use known numbers , as too the new collector if he has seen that ek's are marked 7 , 13 , 44 etc that is all he will be looking for , he wont be bead counting or looking for die flaws if he doesn't know they should have them .

[Woolgar]

Exactly ! Oh well thankfully they didnt !

Nick

[HD1450]

Exactly ! Oh well thankfully they didnt !

Nick

Yeah , hope they don't read this

[Adrian]

Often the faker maker will add a 'wrong' number in the hope of enticing unsuspecting buyers to part with their money for a 'rare' maker. As these get passed on down the chain over time, dodgy dealers will offer them as the same, either aware or not that they're passing on a fake. If the prices for these crosses were €50 each it is only a half hearted appemt to sell them as original as most genuine collectors won't buy the price.
Regarding the '333' marked fakes, I believe there was a genuine reason for them to be marked as such but can't remember for the life of me what it was. If anyone knows, please post here.

[Woolgar]

I have heard of these conspiracy theories:

1. Its a Japanese fake as some Japanese NCO swords are marked 333

2. Weitze thinks its a genuine maker from Strassbourg

3. The faker used digits from his birthday dates

???

Nick

[CARL]

Or turn the digits on their sides...

And you get three arses!

[florinox]

I asked both sellers and indeed they're marked 51.
I don't yet own a EK so i would have bought one if not for this forum....they look good.
Thank you again guys