EK2 No MM

**leej11** · 02-21-2011, 02:45 PM

Heres another without a MM. I normally am not looking for unmarked crosses because you can accumulate so many but I have a hard time turning away once Ive held it. It has a very nice patina like you find on many Imperial crosses so I grabbed it. Any thoughts on a maker?

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 02-21-2011 02:45 PM

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**Glenn66** · 02-21-2011, 03:52 PM

Interesting, the '1813' is not level and the Hakenkreutz seems to have very thin arms. I look forward to seeing what the experts have to say.

**Adrian** · 02-21-2011, 04:24 PM

It looks like a standard Steinhauer & Luck to me.

**Woolgar** · 02-21-2011, 04:30 PM

by Adrian

It looks like a standard Steinhauer & Luck to me.

My thoughts exactly Adrian, with lovely dark patina

Nick

**fabri** · 02-21-2011, 05:28 PM

Interesting cross and very nice. It seems to me an early Wiedmann, especially the back date remember me this manufacturer.
I don't exclude that frame has a low portion of silver but it's just a thought, probably it 's another metal that give this nice patina.

**Adrian** · 02-21-2011, 05:35 PM

by fabri

Interesting cross and very nice. It seems to me an early Wiedmann, especially the back date remember me this manufacturer.
I don't exclude that frame has a low portion of silver but it's just a thought, probably it 's another metal that give this nice patina.

Interesting Fabri. I'll compare it to mine when I get home this evening.

**leej11** · 02-21-2011, 05:46 PM

You guys are the best! The nice patina on the frame is what attracted me to this one. I think it has silver content as well. I really appreciate you guys taking the time to compare it with crosses in your collections as I dont have as many to compare with.

**Woolgar** · 02-21-2011, 06:15 PM

Here is my marked Wiedman to compare (if you can see through my poor photography)

**Adrian** · 02-21-2011, 07:01 PM

Hats off to you Fabri! Good eye, I completely agree with you based upon the '3' in '1813' and also the small flaw on the second '1' in '1813'. A standard S&L frame used by this maker but not the core.