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EKs mm ''7'' and mm ''128''

Article about: Good morning mate. Yeah i know that getting a loan is not logic. I know that there are things i will have in my collection and things that i will also have but as photos I could never buy a

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    Good morning mate. Yeah i know that getting a loan is not logic. I know that there are things i will have in my collection and things that i will also have but as photos I could never buy a RK, nor a SS visor. I would prefer to spend 5, 6 or 7 thousand euros , if i had them, on my house or to buy a motorcycle with side car like Sonny's But not to get an RK even it is a dream to own something like that.
    Unless of course i was a very rich guy, which apparently i'm not.

    P.S. I've checked the pinned list and there are 142 makers including the unknown ones. I have 7 WWII crosses so that's why i said 135 left.
    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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    Chris, you have two very nice additions there congrats

    There are not as many makers as you think, this is the list from Adrian that I go by!

    Nick

    Hi Nick,
    This is the list of known EK2 makers I've been able to collect. There are a few grey areas by which I mean there is the '109' - who knows which cross this maker produced? The '5' marked crosses - real or postwar marked? Then there are the unknown but genuine crosses, like the two I posted in threads entitled 'Unknown EK2 # 1' and #2 respectively, the 'Odd Date' type etc etc.....
    My list below is just the PKZ makers. Some collectors may agree, others will disagree but no-one has raised any major issues with it so I'm content I've collected the makers I can and am happy the list is as accurate as anyone the next person's! +

    1 - Deschler
    2 - Juncker (unmarked)
    3 - Deumer
    4 - Steinhauer & Luck
    5 - Herman Wernstein (?)
    6 - Fritz Zimmermann
    7 - Paul Meybauer
    11 - Grossman & Co
    13 - Gustav Brehmer
    14 - L. Chr. Lauer
    15 - Friedrich Orth
    16 - Alois Rettenmaier
    19 - E. Ferd Weidmann
    21 - Gebr. Godet & Co
    22 - Boerger & Co
    23 - Arbeitsgemeinschaft fur Heereshedarf darf In der Graveur-u. Ziseleurinnung
    24 - Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Hanauer Plaket-ten-hersteller
    25 - Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveur-Gold-und Silberschemiede-Innungen
    27 - Anton Schenkl
    38 - Unknown (?)
    40 - Berg & Nolte
    44 - Jakob Bengel
    52 - Gottlieb & Wagner
    55 - J. E. Hammer & Sohne
    56 - Robert Hauschild
    60 - Katz & Deyhle
    65 - Klein & Quenzer
    66 - Friedrich Keller
    75 - Unknown
    76 - Ernst L. Muller
    86 - Paulmann & Crone
    93 - Richard Simm & Sohne
    98 - Rudolf Souval
    100 - Wachtler & Lange
    106 - Bruder Schneider
    109 - Walter & Hentein (Unmarked but in correct packet for this maker)
    113 - Hermann Aurich
    120 - Franz Petzl
    122 - JJ. Stahl
    123 - Beck, Hassinger & Co.
    125 - Eugen Gauss
    128 - S. Jablonski
    132 - Franz Reischauer
    137 - J.H. Werner
    138 - Juliu
    "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem

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    The list Nick have posted are the right one IMO. 45 different makers. Then there are the LDO´s, Schinkels, Round 3 and some other known crosses.
    So I think you will have about 70-75 crosses, when you are finish.

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    Thanks for posting the list Nick, I couldn't find it last night. Sonny is correct but it also depends how deep you want to go into collecting the EK2s. If you wanted to go the whole way you would need to collect all variations by all makers. For example there are two variations from Zimmermann, Anton Schenkl and Godet, about twelve variations of the K&Q core, many different Juncker cores, then you have the different extra marks on the suspension rings from maker '24' and a lot more besides. The list goes on.......

    And then of course you will need to collect the different ribbon mounts and styles.......

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    Hello guys. Thanks for the list Nick, that's good to hear. So 45 makers is something i can achieve hopefully. But i wouldn't want to go as deep as Adrian described. I would have gone crazy that way
    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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    Quote by donkihotis7 View Post
    I would have gone crazy that way
    That's pretty much where I'm at now Chris! Everytime you think you've made some headway, another missed variant comes along! I can't remember how long it took to complete my PKZ list, two or three years I think specifically collecting the marked examples. How long has it taken you Nick? I know you have a few that can be found marked but you've obtained a representative example of, which makers fall into that category?

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    Its taken me around 2 years, these are what I have;

    EK2s

    1
    2 u/m
    3
    4 x2
    5 (suspect)
    6 x2
    7
    10 (suspect)
    11
    13
    14 u/m ( looking for a marked
    15
    16
    19
    21
    22
    23
    24
    25
    27
    40
    44
    52
    55
    56
    65
    66
    75 (the mystery maker)
    76
    86
    93
    98
    100 x3
    106
    109 u/m
    113
    120
    122
    123
    125
    128
    132
    137
    138
    Round 3
    Schinkel Meybauer
    Schinkel Deumer
    Parade mounted Deumer with Austrian medal
    L/11
    on the way a cased W&L and single parade mounted W&L u/m


    EK1s

    L/56
    26
    100
    7
    L/11
    L/59 screwback
    Souval u/m
    "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem

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    So just the '14' that's unmarked, not bad going Nick! I'm still keeping an eye out for a '60' for you.

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    So just the '14' that's unmarked, not bad going Nick! I'm still keeping an eye out for a '60' for you.
    Thanks Adrian I appreciate it

    Nick
    "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem

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    A 60 for Nick and an 128 for Sonny
    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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