L/21 Screwback Eisernes Kreuz 1. Klasse: fake or Real?

[rhodesia]

So most collectors at the gun shows say it is real that deal with these awards I only had one that said it was questionable because of no hallmark on the cross itself but it is a 3 piece construction silver with iron core magnetic. I got it from an estate sale out of an old box this was inside a letter that was dated 3 months after the war and sent home to the U.S. so I assume it was something he picked up and sent home as a souvenir. So I only paid $75.00 for it. Anyone can tell me if it is real or fake? I myself think it is real but so many Third Reich items are being made today even fool the collectors today from what I have read. Thank you for any input

[paulscoot]

Unfortunately looks like a floch fake to me, Regards ,Paul

[rhodesia]

Unfortunately looks like a floch fake to me, Regards ,Paul

Ok what do I need to look for if it is a fake or a floch fake, I only had one collector tell me that all Iron Cross 1st class will be hallmarked. If it is a fake some German in germany was selling these to soldiers in 1945 as sovenirs to send home. It is a 3 piece I know that for sure with iron core so whoever made sure went out of their way to fake it.

[rbminis]

, I only had one collector tell me that all Iron Cross 1st class will be hallmarked.

That is incorrect.

If it is a fake some German in germany was selling these to soldiers in 1945 as sovenirs to send home.

Do you have any proof of this?
Ralph.

[paulscoot]

The 1939 date is very low in the frame (just like a Floch) & I don't believe there was an LDO manufacturer of the screw back EK1 L/21 ,Regards,Paul (ps Floch fakes are 3 part construction with magnetic cores they are very good copys)

[rhodesia]

The 1939 date is very low in the frame (just like a Floch) & I don't believe there was an LDO manufacturer of the screw back EK1 L/21 ,Regards,Paul (ps Floch fakes are 3 part construction with magnetic cores they are very good copys)

I just started with Thrid Reich items, I have better luck with imperial war german items so maybe I should stay with that collection.

[Adrian Stevenson]

Have a look here:

Fakes Part 1 / Kopien Teil 1 - EK1 DNA

[CMSgt]

There is no screw back maker L/21. It is a Floch fake (low date, overlapping ribbing in the center and corners). Jim

[rhodesia]

Thank you everyone I will use FLOCH EK1 L/21 this as a learning curve and take this to the collector shows so I can use this as a reference so I can get a real one. I have been looking to buy a real one but its so hard to know even if the fakes are fooling the collectors as well. I see so many for sale online that sell real ones but I have heard that you cannot really trust these sites as well. again thank you for steering me in the right direction.

[rbminis]

Here is one for sale in our classifieds right now. It has been there for a while, you may be able to get it for a bit less.
Eisernes Kreuz 1 class - Militaria Collectibles buy - sell at War Relics
Here is another.
EK1 Deschler cSohn - Militaria Collectibles buy - sell at War Relics
A couple more here.
Some EK1 and EK2 for sale - Militaria Collectibles buy - sell at War Relics
That should start you off.
If these don't do it for you, you can look through the classifieds yourself.
Third Reich German awards and badges - Militaria Collectibles buy - sell at War Relics
Ralph.