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    Original or copy? Who the manufacturer? On a pin marks 20.
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    "20" is for the C. F. Zimmermann, Pforzheim firm

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    maker is C.F. Zimmermann Pforzheim
    a good solid ek1 looks original to me

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    One more cross L/16 what of them is more expensive and better, what difference in the price what is better to buy?
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    im like the Zimmermann its a nice EK

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    both are fine medals,,,,

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    I prefer the one with the 'round 3' it appears to be an early cross and is hard to find is my guess.
    'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
    We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
    It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
    Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'

    In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.

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    I would buy the Zimmermann, it's a good original cross.
    The second cross, the L/16 just doesn't add up. L/16 is the LDO number for Steinhauer & Luck. This company (to my knowledge) is not a recognised maker of round three EKs. (Again, please correct me if I'm wrong.)
    Look closely at it, the frames have been apart. On the obverse photo you can see where they've been very crudely filed to remove the excess solder, the edges of the frame are ragged, not acceptable quality for a TR made cross. This is also not a Steinhauer & Luck frame. Something is very wrong with this cross and my best advice to you would be not to buy it. Stick to the Zimmermann '20', that cross is fine.

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    The Zimmermann is a good one as already mentioned.

    The other cross is a puzzle. I have been looking at close up shots of the unknown R3 frames in Dietrich's book and they dont match this cross. Also I have scrutinized the beading on an S&L and that does match this cross. Also the pin set up is S&L and the L/16 stamp looks ok.

    Adrian is correct however that R3 and S&L are not seen together

    Hopefully someone will be able to put our minds at rest

    Nick
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    "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem

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    Adrian as I have understood you L/16 didn't do crosses with a round three and this cross a fake.

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