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Oakleaves..Eichenlaub zum Ritterkreuz des Eisernes Kreuz.... opinions please!!!!

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    Found this online... opinions please... seems far to cheap to be real.
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    Not good in my opinion. Poor detail.


    Plus you have recognised the "too cheap" trap.


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    Poor quality and oakleaves don't come cheap !!
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    Ends of loops not done with the quality you expect with such a high award. These oakleafs are a high award from the german military and i suggest you pickup the many books that cover the KC,OAKLEAVES TO,SWORDS,before attempting to buy such a Rare award IMO.Carl

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    A fake set of oakleaves. Out of curiosity, do you know what the makers mark is stamped on the left hand side? I can't make it out.
    Godet were the only firm contracted to produce these awards for the PKZ and therefore they will all be very similar. There is a first and second pattern, this one is neither. There are few 'L' marked oaks to be found but these were not official award pieces, they were for retail sale only until regulations were put in place to ban these types of sale and the stock of these 'L' marked pieces were given to the PKZ although a few were used as official awards. No original set of oakleaves have the pimple flaw on the top right of the front oakleaf.

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    The detail one would expect from such an item should be very sharp. The above piece appears much softer than I would expect to see on an original example. The price, is always likely to be a good indicator too.

    Regards,

    Carl

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    ADRIAN,The reverse of the oakleaves are marked 900 on the left,while the designation 'silber" and maufactors code L/50 is on the right.Carl

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    A little bit more informatiom on the oakleaves.Their is a rare type that only has the 'SILBER' mark of 900 and it has a flat reverse not concave as is the norm.Carl

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    The site it is on is>>>> World War I Medals
    They also have a knights cross that looks hand aged (notice the scratches on the arms)... the oakleaves are on for $1500.

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    Quote by goodbuys View Post
    ADRIAN,The reverse of the oakleaves are marked 900 on the left,while the designation 'silber" and maufactors code L/50 is on the right.Carl
    How do you know that Carl? On the website they're down as only being marked with '800'? And is it marked 'SILBER' or SiLBER'?

    You have to wonder about a dealer who 'apparently' has a high end item such as the Oakleaves, can't be bothered to take more than two very poor quality photos, can't add a description more than five words long, two of which are 'oak leaves' and only asks $1500?
    It's almost as if he knows something aint quite right............... and don't get me started on the RK he has for sale.

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