picked this Eisernen Kreuzes up from a bric a brac fair on weekend. real?

[dalo]

I still can't tell a real EK from a car crash

[Eric Zentner]

Sorry a fatality car crash! as I hope you can walk away from it.

Eric

[dalo]

Yea was just a few bucks so not bothered at all
just so i learn what was the most obvious signs to you that it was fake?

[wood]

"was the most obvious signs to you that it was fake?"
The hinge, the pin, the hook, the cross.
Pete

[Eric Zentner]

Differn't makers do differn't things but the shape and detail is not what I would except from a TR maker.


Eric

[MD Helmets]

Dont forget the bad beading. It's just all around bad. How much is a "few bucks"?

[Walkwolf]

Nasty. It's been cast in one piece - plus, all the pock marks and uneven
surfaces are indications that there is no quality in it whatsoever.

Thanks for the comparison pics, Eric.........!

[Frundsberg]

Very poor quality fakes.

[octavian]

The metal quality of this fake has a lot of porosity in it. I even question if its not Japanese or Chinese 1040 cold rolled steel (a basic cheap steel)... I lean more to Japanese metals on this one. When i first looked at it i saw the "pot marks" on both the face and back. The second obvious item to note is the backside. The pin was soldered on with a careless torch! A lot of solder splatter also. The burnt score marks are evident in the the surrounding corners. It got damn hot to attach what looks to be a part of a Cotter Key for the pin?!? Others have rightfully noted other obvious flaws, but i wanted to mention the metal composition pits and burnt score marks. Hope you didn't spend too much.

Attached is my run down on the metal flaws i saw:

[Woolgar]

Please put it in the bin Dalo and remove it from civilisation

Thanks

Nick