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Article about: Hi all this is the list i'm following for my collection, is it completed, correct? thanks 1 - Deschler & Sohn B-Type/Prototype Round-3 unmarked marked 1 2 - C.E. Juncker WFS frame (Wide

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    Hi all this is the list i'm following for my collection, is it completed, correct?

    thanks

    1 - Deschler & Sohn
    B-Type/Prototype
    Round-3
    unmarked
    marked 1

    2 - C.E. Juncker
    WFS frame (Wide Frame Schinkel Juncker - called also AWS frame-from typed maker: Albert Werner & Sohn)
    crunch-bead frame 3Flaw (non-mag. WFS core)
    crunch bead frame (mag., Juncker core) aka "full Juncker"
    crunch bead frame (mag., W&L core)
    crunch bead frame (mag., L/12 marked)
    common L/12 type frame (mag marked L/12)
    long flaw frame (mag., "small RK" core) long flaw runs down the 7 o'clock arm beading strand
    small frame ( dimensions about 43,5x43,5mm mag )


    3 - Wilhelm Deumer
    Schinkel (mag.)
    Schinkel (non-mag.)
    unmarked
    marked 3
    Early marked L/11

    4 - Steinhauer & Lück
    unmarked
    marked 4
    marked L/16
    marked 4 and L/16

    6 - Fritz Zimmermann
    fat beading frame unmarked, slim date numerals core
    thin beading frame,slim date numerals core marked 6.
    thin beading frame unmarked
    fat beading frame marked 6.

    7 - Paul Meybauer
    Schinkel glossy paint
    Schinkel matte paint
    unmarked type 1
    unmarked Type 2 has a shorter 'nose'
    marked 7
    marked L/13 type 1
    marked L/13 Type 2 has a shorter 'nose'
    marked 7 and L/13

    11 - Grossmann & Co.
    unmarked
    marked 11

    12 - Frank & Reif
    Übergroße (unmarked)
    Übergroße "Little Brother" (unmarked)

    13 - Gustav Brehmer
    unmarked
    marked 13

    14 - L. Christian Lauer
    unmarked
    marked 14

    15 - Friedrich Orth
    unmarked
    marked 15
    Marked L/14

    16 - Alois Rettenmaier
    unmarked
    marked 16

    19 - E. Ferd Wiedmann
    unmarked
    marked 19

    20 ?- C.F.Zimmermann
    Signed 20 (signature always postwar, but on the original cross!)

    21 - Gebrüder Godet
    unmarked early frame type
    marked 21

    22 - Boerger & Co.
    unmarked
    marked 22

    23 - Arbeitsgemeinschaft für Heeresbedarf in der Graveur- und Ziselierinnung
    unmarked with 23 core
    marked 23 with 23 core
    marked 23 Meybauer core

    24 - Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Hanauer Plakettenhersteller
    unmarked
    unmarked (list needed ) ("WR" "oak leaf - 3 leaf clover " "o" "O" "x" "+""acorn in a box")
    marked 24 (list needed )("WR" "oak leaf - 3 leaf clover " "o" "O" "x" "+""acorn in a box")
    marked 24
    marked 24 with ancillary mark on jumping: (list needed ) ("WR" "oak leaf - 3 leaf clover " "o" "O" "x" "+""acorn in a box")
    unmarked with ancillary mark on jumping: (list needed ) ("WR" "oak leaf - 3 leaf clover " "o" "O" "x" "+""acorn in a box")
    marked V

    25 - Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveur-, Gold- und Silberschemiedeinnungen
    unmarked
    marked 25

    L/18 B.H. Mayer ( Bernart Heinrich Mayer )
    unmarked (early core)
    unmarked (regular Mayer core)
    marked L/18

    27 - Anton Schenkl's Nachf. (Maria Schenkl)
    unmarked with # frame
    marked 27 with # frame
    marked 27 with standard frame
    unmarked with standard frame

    35 - F. W. Assmann und Söhne
    Schinkel (non-mag)
    Schinkel (mag)

    40 - Berg & Nolte
    unmarked
    marked 40

    44 - Jakob Bengel
    unmarked
    marked 44

    52 - Gottlieb & Wagner
    unmarked
    marked 52

    55 - J.E. Hammer & Söhne
    unmarked
    marked 55

    56 - Robert Hauschild
    unmarked
    marked 56 core A
    marked 56 core B

    60 - Katz & Deyhle
    unmarked
    marked 60

    65 - Klein & Quenzer A.G.
    unmarked core A
    marked 65 core A
    marked 65 core B
    marked 65 core C


    66 - Friedrich Keller
    marked 66

    75 - (Unknown Maker)
    unmarked
    marked 75

    76 - Ernst L. Müller
    unmarked
    marked 76

    86 - Paulmann & Crone
    unmarked Early (non-mag)
    unmarked (non-mag)
    unmarked (mag)
    S&L Frame (non-mag)

    93 - Richard Simm & Söhne
    marked 93

    98 - Rudol Souval
    unmarked
    unmarked – Core Schenkl (27)
    unmarked – Core – Orth (15)
    marked 98 - Core – Schenkl (27)
    marked 98 - Core – Orth (15)
    post-war - ramka „straight arms”, w³asny rdzeñ „thick swaz & deep 3”
    marked 98
    marked L/58

    100 - Rudolf Wächtler & Lange
    unmarked
    marked 100
    marked L55

    106 - Brüder Schneider
    marked 106

    109 - Walter & Henlein
    unmarked

    113 - Hermann Aurich
    unmarked
    marked 113

    116 - Funke & Brunninghaus
    unmarked
    marked L/56

    120 - Franz Petzl
    unmarked
    marked 120

    122 - J.J. Stahl
    marked 122

    123 - Beck Hassinger & Co.
    marked 123
    marked [123]

    125 - Eugen Gauss
    marked 125

    127 - Moritz Hausch A.G.
    unmarked

    128 - S. Jablonski G.m.b.H.
    marked 128

    132 - Franz Reischauer
    marked 132

    137 - J.H. Werner
    marked 137

    138 - Julius Maurer
    marked 138

    140 - Schauerte & Hohfeld
    Schinkel (non-mag) (this cross may also be by Assmann)
    Schinkel (mag) (this cross may also be by Assmann)
    unmarked
    marked L/54

    142 - A.D. Schwerdt


    Otto Schickle L/15
    Schinkel one-piece thin ,egyrészes vékony + 1 db parádé szalag
    Schinkel one-piece thick ,egyrészes vastag
    unmarked (mag.)
    unmarked (non-mag.)
    unmarked early core (mag.)
    marked L/15 (mag.)
    marked L/15 (non-mag.)

    Petz & Lorenz (no number known)
    one-piece unmarked

    Unknown Makers:

    Round-3 thick unmarked
    Round-3 thin beveled , ferde
    Round-3 swas-on-pedestal, pebbled core surface , swas on-talapzaton, kavicsos mag felülete
    B-Type/Prototype
    Unknown Maker (Half) Schinkel unmarked
    Straight-9 Schinkel
    "Lug" variant unmarked
    "Lug" variant marked Z or 2
    "Odd Date" variant unmarked
    "8" variant unmarked NB: this cross is not necessarily manufactured by maker 8; it just doesn't have another name.
    "8" variant core "8" variant Unkown anOther Frame
    "straight-arm" variant unmarked
    Spanish-made (various types)

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    It depends on how you want to view it.

    For example, when does a Paulmann & Crone become a Paulmann & Crone with an S&L frame?

    Has anyone got a Paulmann & Crone with an S&L frame and why isn't it an S&L cross?

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    let's see what it come s out, at least I wont have to reach 147 crosses!!!!!

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    This is mine list Massimo
    Hí Adrian
    I put up a P & C core S & L frame
    Finally, it is possible that you are right but there is one cross
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    let's see what it come s out, at least I wont have to reach 147 crosses!!!!!
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    Sanya

    I'm looking for EK II 1939: B.H.Mayer: A and B core,mm L/18 and schinkel type ,[123],,EK1 Round-3 with Deschler frame and Friedrich Sedlatzek pin and SB variant

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    Hi Sandor, yesterday we start talking about 98 and versions produced, such 98/27 or 15.. Sorry for publishing your list!

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