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Real Ritterkreuz presentation boxes and ribbons?

Article about: I recently bought these from a guy online and thy finally showed up today however like all knights cross stuff i am dubious of their authenticity

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    I'm sorry to say that I don't have any confidence in any of the items shown.

    I believe the red case to be an artificially aged fantasy item - while the eagle looks to be the style used on Ritterkreuz documents, there is no way that this was made for an original Grosskreuz. Considering that the Grosskreuz was one of the highest awards known, it is inconceivable that it would ever be housed in such a poorly made and cheap looking case.

    Regards - Danny

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  3. #12

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    I think the eagle is also a type used on AH stationery.
    No good anyway, IMO.........
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    Thanks for the further photos , as has already been pointed out the Eagle is incorrect for the Grosskreuz case . The dimensions of the Grosskreuz were 48.5mm x 48.6mm making far bigger than an RK and too big to fit inside the case shown here !!
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    The red case bears no resemblence to any RK presentation case I have seen or have in my reference material. Certainly it is the wrong shape for a start, the quality is poor and as for being a Grand Cross case...nope.

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    The cut out for the cross in the red case look's uneven and the cut out for the top arm is smaller than the cut out's for the other arms. Or am i just seeing things?

    Cheers

    Rory

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    it has the correct hinge, it has the correct catch, it has the correct inside material. I think it may be a fake on a second evaluation.

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    Sorry may have been a bit hasty because of the possible real item on my first evaluation.

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    Quote by KMMorris View Post
    Sorry may have been a bit hasty because of the possible real item on my first evaluation.
    Many people have been caught out over the years by thinking they have come across a very rare item when in fact they have been done ,one of the fakers favourite tactics , it's always best to take a step back and evaluate the item itself and not rush in fuelled by exitement at getting the bargain of the century !!
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    Can we see a closer photo of the 'KH' marked ribbon please to check out the weave?

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