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Recent finds from Germany: 2 x EKII with different frame sizes

Article about: One of them is marked "55" (J.E. Hammer & Söhne Geringswalde) but another is unmarked with a much wider frame. I'm not an EKII expert but this cross seems also 100% original to

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    Default Recent finds from Germany: 2 x EKII with different frame sizes

    One of them is marked "55" (J.E. Hammer & Söhne Geringswalde) but another is unmarked with a much wider frame. I'm not an EKII expert but this cross seems also 100% original to me. Can anyone tell who is the maker and why the frame is so wide? Is EK frame from WWI?
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    Default Re: Recent finds from Germany: 2 x EKII with different frame sizes

    The standard frame size is 44 x 44 mm, the larger size is 47.5 x 47.5 mm. These, larger crosses are known as Ubergrosse (oversize) EKs. The reason for the larger size is likely lost to time, but they were issued as regular EKIIs.

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    Default Re: Recent finds from Germany: 2 x EKII with different frame sizes

    I think the bigger one is called UberGross EKII... correct me if im wrong... They are rarer crosses

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    Default Re: Recent finds from Germany: 2 x EKII with different frame sizes

    Don't get confused between wide frame crosses and Ubergrosse crosses. Ubergrosse EKs are bigger overall, not just a wider frame. The cross above is not an Ubergrosse. I would suggest comparing it with a '24'.

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    Default Re: Recent finds from Germany: 2 x EKII with different frame sizes

    Adrian is correct.

    I have an example of this too, I think it is down to wear as it is much smaller than my W&L

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    Default Re: Recent finds from Germany: 2 x EKII with different frame sizes

    I've just had a look at it compared to a marked '24' and that is indeed what you have.

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