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Two EKII's 1939 makermarked 24 and 27 - Are they the real deal?

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    Default Two EKII's 1939 makermarked 24 and 27 - Are they the real deal?

    Hi guys,

    I would appreciate some input regarding the EKII's and their authenticity. They look good to me, however there are members here with much more experience and knowledge than me.

    All information is much appreciated.

    - Kenneth
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    Default Re: Two EKII's 1939 makermarked 24 and 27 - Are they the real deal?

    For the cross marked '24', check the ring where it meets the medal frame. I believe it should have a stamp on there too.
    The cross marked '27' Anton Nachfolger, looks in excellent condition.

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    Default Re: Two EKII's 1939 makermarked 24 and 27 - Are they the real deal?

    They are both very nice examples !

    Nick
    "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem

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    Default Re: Two EKII's 1939 makermarked 24 and 27 - Are they the real deal?

    They look both good to me.

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    Default Re: Two EKII's 1939 makermarked 24 and 27 - Are they the real deal?

    I can see parts (I think) of a marking on the ring attached to the frame itself, but this guild mark is very unintelligible due to small damages to the ring itself.

    - Kenneth

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    Default Re: Two EKII's 1939 makermarked 24 and 27 - Are they the real deal?

    Both good originals..

    #24 can be found with different extra marks: WR, Oakleaf, 0, +, (), +0.
    I donīt remember if there are more, but maybe someone else will.

    #27 are with a Souval core.

    Nice crosses!

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    Default Re: Two EKII's 1939 makermarked 24 and 27 - Are they the real deal?

    No problems here, there is a thread about the extra marks on '24' marked crosses here.

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    Default Re: Two EKII's 1939 makermarked 24 and 27 - Are they the real deal?

    I thank you all for your expertise in the field of EKs.

    Snni: Do you know if it was common for Vienna-based makers to use cores from Souval instead of making their own cores?

    - Kenneth

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    Default Re: Two EKII's 1939 makermarked 24 and 27 - Are they the real deal?

    Quote by KSH View Post
    I thank you all for your expertise in the field of EKs.

    Snni: Do you know if it was common for Vienna-based makers to use cores from Souval instead of making their own cores?

    - Kenneth
    Sorry for the late reply!

    I think #27, Orth (L/14) and Souval (of course) was the only ones using Souval cores.
    Correct me if I wrong, guys!
    Many of the different maker did use cores and frames from other makers.
    You will find many crosses with S&L frames.

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    Default Re: Two EKII's 1939 makermarked 24 and 27 - Are they the real deal?

    nice looking crosses

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