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Dogfight above portuguese airspace

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    Default Dogfight above portuguese airspace

    I have found several photos on the web about the 7 german crewmembers of a bomber that was shotdown above portuguese airspace. 4 german planes were engaged in combat with two british spitfires, while trying to destroy a convoy of 25 allied supply ships . After crashing the bodys were covered by nearby people that ran over there to see the crashsight. They were buried with military honor, and their graves remained well taken cared of until today.

    They died on crash on the 9/7/1943.
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    Hi Nuno,

    By the number of crew being seven the aircraft must have been a Focke-Wulf FW200.Some Condors crashed in Portugal. Their crews were allowed to return to Germany while the British authorities were allowed to inspect the aircraft and accompanying documentation. Some crews (at least one full crew) died in these crashes and all crew members are buried in the civilian cemetery of Moura (Alentejo Province) in Portugal. The aircraft that crashed in Spain and Portugal had been based in Bordeaux-Merignac, France (after 1940). Before 1940, the operational base of the Fw 200 squadrons had been in Denmark.

    Regards, Ned.
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    'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
    We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
    It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
    Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'

    In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.

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    Quote by big ned View Post
    Hi Nuno,

    By the number of crew being seven the aircraft must have been a Focke-Wulf FW200.Some Condors crashed in Portugal. Their crews were allowed to return to Germany while the British authorities were allowed to inspect the aircraft and accompanying documentation. Some crews (at least one full crew) died in these crashes and all crew members are buried in the civilian cemetery of Moura (Alentejo Province) in Portugal. The aircraft that crashed in Spain and Portugal had been based in Bordeaux-Merignac, France (after 1940). Before 1940, the operational base of the Fw 200 squadrons had been in Denmark.

    Regards, Ned.
    Thats right Ned, this precise one crashed in the area of Aljezur, however according to accounts, this plane was not examined much, most had burned in the crash, the salvaged parts were quikly removed by the civilian population, for souvenirs and for scraping, in order to make some money. You can imagine the people acting like hungry animals to get food. In this case was get pieces of the plane.
    Cheers.
    Nuno
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    I wonder where the Spits were based-they were short ranged point defense interceptors (like the Bf109 Messerschmitts)-Gibraltar?, North Africa or perhaps they were Seafires from a carrier/escort carrier.

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    Quote by lithgow View Post
    I wonder where the Spits were based-they were short ranged point defense interceptors (like the Bf109 Messerschmitts)-Gibraltar?, North Africa or perhaps they were Seafires from a carrier/escort carrier.
    There is evidence that this aircraft as well as another FW200 may have been shot down and crashed in Portugal by Lockheed Hudsons of 233 Sqn in the summer of 1943. 233 were based at Gib on anti U-Boat/shipping strikes and convoy patrols. Maybe Nuno can look into this more as I can't find much more detail on the action.

    Regards, Ned.
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    'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
    We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
    It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
    Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'

    In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.

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    Quote by big ned View Post
    There is evidence that this aircraft as well as another FW200 may have been shot down and crashed in Portugal by Lockheed Hudsons of 233 Sqn in the summer of 1943. 233 were based at Gib on anti U-Boat/shipping strikes and convoy patrols. Maybe Nuno can look into this more as I can't find much more detail on the action.

    Regards, Ned.
    Already on it Ned, but have to tell you, all accounts report spitfires, but ill see what i can find out.
    Cheers.
    Nuno

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    One lad wasn't even 19...Wow,so young. Such a shame. William
    William

    "Much that once was, is lost. For none now live who remember it."

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    Im sorry for the delay on this matter.
    Better late than never
    The Focke-Wulf FW200 C4 was shot down by a beaufighter of F/sgt Mcleod and sgt Inglis of squadron 248.
    The german bomber had the inscription N8+NT.
    Cheers.
    Nuno

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