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Escape and Evasion / Survival aids - Silk maps and Escape Compasses + more!

Article about: Very neat addition to your collection, fine maps indeed. All you need to find is a slight variation and then it is impossible to part with! I will be posting a very rare MI-9 German Identity

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    [QUOTE=Grimebox;837379 The interesting item, however, is the shaving brush. It is dated 1943 and the end unscrews to reveal a standard escape compass set into the 'lid'. Unfortunately somebody has had a good go at trying to dig it out!

    The map is a very faded Batholomew map covering Germany - I have shown it alongside an unfaded example[/QUOTE]

    Hi Grimebox, interesting group. Did you see the same shaving brush that sold on eBay last year? Had a different compass in it, which was certainly not supplied by MI9, but interestingly, had a very period looking cork plug over it, concealing it quite effectively...

    But what is different with this shaving brush, is that it has no degree of covert concealment? ALL other MI9 shaving brush carriers either have glued in bristles over the concealment, or a reversing thread, to keep the enemy guessing. This type has nothing, an idiot would find that compass without too much trouble... So was this a personal concealment, by someone not in the MI9 loop, or are they a later construction?



    By the way, I have two of these. One like yours, with an open compass, and one with the compass under the residue of a stick of shaving soap, which has run out and someone has scraped away, to reveal a somewhat green Mildewed compass... So it may be they had shaving sticks inside the handle when used , concealing the compasses?

    Thoughts/comments anyone?

    Regards TB

  2. #152

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    I would be interested in seeing your shaving brushes. I think I know of the shaving brush that you are talking of that sold on Ebay (I think it sold around the 200 - 250 mark). I had a good search on the internet, IWM archives and books that I have and the only shaving brushes with concealed compasses (or maps) that I could find were either of the wooden variety (where the brush detaches from the main handle so it is well concealed) or the standard Gilette brushes which are shown in Per Ardua Libertas.
    Whether the compass was set deeper into the 'lid' when it was first put in there so that it could be covered by something I don't know (It's in there pretty tight now). I would suggest that items hidden inside a shaving brush would only be of use post capture i.e. in a P.o.W camp, and that these type of brushes would be well searched by the Germans. Thus, given that the compass would probably be found (even if covered by something) I don't believe it is an official made piece.

  3. #153

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    Another AAF Cloth Map. Dated 1943 and marked NL52 HARBIN and NL53 SPASSK-DAL'NIY
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    Another example of an American produced escape compass, it is slightly larger than the other example that I have. The glass is slightly crazed around the edges
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    Always interesting looking at this threat.
    chris

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    I've decided to give up on my attempt to trade in militaria to boost my collection fund - I bought this map cheap and thought I could turn a quick profit (like the other map I bought!), it wasn't well described and the pictures weren't brilliant, however, I recognised it as a 43 series map and knew that I could probably double my money. However, when it turned up I found out that it showed Sheet F and Sheet G. 43 Series maps run sequentially i.e. A-B, C-D, E-F, G-H, although out of sequence maps exist they are a lot rarer than their sequential counter parts. Another keeper!
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    I have one marked S2 & S3 for Italy and Greece (small Italy & Greece on one side large Greece Turkey and Crete on the other) Its on a pale yellow material, any idea why?
    It mentions various former international boundaries the last date being Aug 30th. 1940. What may be the date of issue?
    Also I have seen one of the hollow dice for sale, (its not cheap) do you really think it was an escape aid?
    Regards,
    Pete

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    Map S2 / S3 will be a Bartholomew map dating from around 1940 - 43. The international boundaries obviously changed a lot during the war so the dates relate to what is shown on the map and do not necessarily date the map itself. These maps do age over time and it is not uncommon to find that they have faded / discoloured to yellow.
    The hollow dice is an unusual piece, unfortunately, as with a lot of MI9, etc material there is not vast documentation on what existed. The dice fits the smallest escape compass at a squeeze and is a period looking dice. The question to ask is what is the benefit in producing a hollow dice? It does not benefit the manufacturing process and the void is too small to hide anything on a domestic/commercial basis. The other option is a magicians prop, however, it is very fiddly to open and very small. I wouldn't pay a vast sum of money for one without any provenance .
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    Thanks for the reply. The map has not faded, it is a definite yellow. As for the dice, I agree and will pass.
    Pete

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    A 'map pouch' or 'map wallet'. Made of rubberised fabric these contained a map/maps, a compass and saw. There were earlier versions which were called map purses, these contained money as well as the above listed items (hence the reason this one is marked 'Maps only').
    Map pouches are quite rare (the map purses even more so) and expensive so I was quite lucky to get this one for a reasonable price and from a dealer no less!
    The pouch contains Map C and D from the 43 series and a compass. There was no saw with it.
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