who dares wins die

[stuka f]

Not sure of the periode nore the nationality!
It could be post war and Belgian!
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|<ris

[Jerry B]

Cool item Chris. Do you mind if I post the pics on the Brit badge forum?

[Danmark]

I wonder whether there was a reverse impression for this or just a flat die for coining this onto a piece of material?

[stuka f]

Cool item Chris. Do you mind if I post the pics on the Brit badge forum?

Not at all, Jerry! Be my guest!
If you want a better pic, just let me now.
cheers
|<ris

[stuka f]

I wonder whether there was a reverse impression for this or just a flat die for coining this onto a piece of material?

Depending of the importance of the order, there was a positive die and/or a cut out die.
Let's not forget that thise dies, costed a lot of money, even then !
A complete kit; negative, postive and cut out die, would have be the value of a middelclass car!
The making of buttons, insigna's or medals was a very labor intensive job! When no cut out die was provided, the insigna's (or what ever!) needed to be cut out by hand. Little holes where drilled all over the exess of material and then filled in order to get the object.
The positive die was repleaced by all sorts of things, you have no idea ! I have seen some very strange positive die's!!
I'll try to put more pic's to make thise clear.
Cheers
|<ris

[stuka f]

Here is a very good example of an insigna that needed to be cut out by hand!
Thise was done with a file that was introduced in a hole that was drilled at an emplacement that needed to go.
Thise Belgian navy cap badge was partialy done! A finished beadge took days of work, from star till the end!

[stuka f]

Here is a better cropped pic!

[stuka f]

The insigna's on the out side, are left as how they look when they come out of the die.
The force and friction of the the machine that pound them was so high that temperature rises so they burn!
The one in the middle was treated. The treatment is a acid and a base bath they are going in to in order to make them shiny again!
Generally thise is done when the pin's have been added, because they burn again during that procedure.
The middle one was washed to be showed!
Some times the cupper plate is heaten artificialy before pound in the die, but that is a methode used when no decsent positive matrix is available.
cheers
|<ris

[Jerry B]

An item posted by someone on another forum that might be of interest to you Kris.

Medal maker: 300 year-old regalia firm whose craftsmen make the awards that adorn our bravest soldiers | Mail Online

[stuka f]

Thanks Jerry, I had thise a numberous of times, but it is always a pleasure to see it again!!
cheers
|<ris