Two Allgemeine Sturmabzeichen: Authentic Pieces? Bronze Finish on Assman?

[aechols83]

Hi, all. I saw these two General Assault badges this past weekend. I'm nearly certain the first is an authentic piece by Assman as it has the correct maker and mold markings. I can't tell what the finish used to be on this badge...probably bronze? The 2nd badge I believe might be a fake/repro but I'm not sure. The eagle's head and the casting in general look a little crude. I'm also not sure about how the pin is attached on the reverse. The 2nd badge is being offered cheaply at $35 USD which makes me skeptical. The first, Assman marked badge is selling for $75 USD. What do you guys think?

Thanks for all the help and opinions!
-Adam

[Adrian]

Im not keen on either of them........
Don't forget, maker marks and mould markings can be incorporated into a fake badge just as easily as the details on the obverse.......

*EDIT* After a bit more research the Assman might stand a chance, can anyone else confirm?

[oksnevad_2]

I don't like the first one at all
(White BG)
Lack of detail on everything... The grenade, the bayonet, the eagle, pretty much everything

I must agree with AdrianC, im not keen on either of them........

[aechols83]

Good to know and thanks, guys. I was pretty sure the one was bad so it's nice to know I am starting to spot them! What about the Assman causes suspicion? I'd be great to get confirmation on it...if it is a fake it seems to be a better one.

Thanks,
Adam

[Adrian]

Adam,
Is the hinge on the Assman molded in as part of the badge?

[aechols83]

Unfortunately I only took these 3 pictures and cannot remember. I could ask the seller if he could take a picture of it for me, but judging from these alone I can't tell. Good if it is, right?