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Need help with identification? Luftwaffe?

Article about: It will be intresting to find out what they are from, especially if the wreck these items are from is unidentified.

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    I just got these dug up items from a friend. Does anybody have an idea what this might be. I think they are parts of a Luftwaffe plane. Any ideas anybody?
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    These parts look like there from a WW2 German Mauser Cannon, do a search for Mauser Mk214 and you will see what I mean.

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    Quote by m3bobby View Post
    These parts look like there from a WW2 German Mauser Cannon, do a search for Mauser Mk214 and you will see what I mean.
    Thanks. You might be right. Hope somebody can confirm this

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    Those pieces don't really look like parts of airframe to me, the look a bit too heavy and bulky and are more likely parts of some kind of weapon. The piece towards the left hand side of the 6th picture looks like a feed tray to me, and the other parts speak for themselves

    Thanks

    Danny

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    Weapon parts as M3 and Danny have pointed out. Definitely.

    Cheers

    Steve T

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    Quote by Steve T View Post
    Weapon parts as M3 and Danny have pointed out. Definitely.

    Cheers

    Steve T
    So these used to be mounted on a Messerschmit! What a cool find. How is it possible that a bunch of crippled iron can make somebody so excited haha!

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    I can't find any matching parts in the, admittedly not wonderful, exploded view photo I have of the 2cm MG151/20, but since the sheet steel piece you have on the very right in this grouping looks like a feed tray, with a cutout that's the size of the ammunition in the centre, if you could measure it- both lengths and widths of the wide and narrow sections, perhaps that'll help...
    Ohhhhh- pillage then burn...

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    Yeah, I couldnt match any parts to a specific cannon, it defo looks like a rotary cannon of some sort, and the only wartime manufacturer I know of would have been Mauser.

    I just had a thought though. Perhaps its a Orlikon or Hispano dirivitive like

    http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/...G-1-493-16.jpg

    I like the chances on this one, it has a flat feed try by the looks of it.
    http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/...G-1-493-18.jpg

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    I will do some more investigation and measuring in the next few days. Hope I can find some kind of marking anywhere. Thanks for all your help so far!

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    A 2cm MG151/20 round measures about 25mm at the base and the case is about 65mm base to neck; the shell is of course about 2cm and the length from case neck to fuse is about 80mm. So if the opening in that feed tray would accept a round of those dimensions, that's a pretty good identification as I'm pretty sure no other weapon used similiarly-sized ammunition.

    Oerlikon rounds' cases had no neck so would've only needed an opening a bit larger than 2cm overall- plus most were drum magazine fed, so I don't know if they'd have had a feed tray like this, which looks like one for a belt-fed weapon.
    Ohhhhh- pillage then burn...

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