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Article about: HI Do you think these look good ? I have completed some research and have a feeling they are fakes ? Cheers

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    HI

    Do you think these look good ? I have completed some research and have a feeling they are fakes ?

    Cheers
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    Not sure on the SS as others will have a better idea and might disagree with me, but the other looks fine.
    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

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    Thanks, i found this known example of the cup on the internet, the markings are slightly different ?

    Cheers
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    Quote by HistoryMan View Post
    Thanks, i found this known example of the cup on the internet, the markings are slightly different ?

    Cheers
    Only the SS types are being faked as far as I am aware, the others are so common it is not worth it YET.

    The makers mark changes so often it is not really a surprise that it varies on the two you looked at. The luft plate I own is different again. Check the link below.

    Rosenthal China Date Marks | Collect Rosenthal
    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

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    Quote by Jerry B View Post
    Only the SS types are being faked as far as I am aware, the others are so common it is not worth it YET.

    The makers mark changes so often it is not really a surprise that it varies on the two you looked at. The luft plate I own is different again. Check the link below.

    Rosenthal China Date Marks | Collect Rosenthal
    Thanks Jerry, I have checked that link but none match this one, they all have a dot or a dash incorporated into the design which this one does not seem to have ??

    Cheers

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    Quote by HistoryMan View Post
    Thanks Jerry, I have checked that link but none match this one, they all have a dot or a dash incorporated into the design which this one does not seem to have ??

    Cheers
    The thread starter has a dash between SELB and Germany!?

    Is that what you mean?
    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

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    Hi Jerry

    No, they all have the dash between SELB and Germany, SELB-Germany, all the other's have addition dots and dash's in different locations , i assume it may be a date mark, as well as having the date stamped ?

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    This is the closest match to the one on the cup i posted but it has a dot above the " e " in Germany, do you see what i mean ??

    Cheers
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    This one has a dot above the crown ? do you see what i mean ?

    Cheers
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    Quote by HistoryMan View Post
    This is the closest match to the one on the cup i posted but it has a dot above the " e " in Germany, do you see what i mean ??

    Cheers
    I do, but firstly check the marks for 1919-35 and the one mext to it and neither of them have the dot as far as I can see.

    And secondly, I think you are being too paranoid.

    Pottery backstamps are often done by transfer as in this case and expecting them to be text book is a mistake, they are not that accurate and are often missing parts if a transfer and misstamped if a stamp.

    I would not be concerned about the cup and saucer.

    Here is my 100% period original Luft bowl, notice it has no dot etc....
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    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

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