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Just HOW do you tell the difference?

Article about: Ok a bit of an odd question, but if the piece is not signed, how would you determine if a bronze bust of AH was period or not? It weighs nearly 3kgs and stands about 10" high, the detai

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    Default Just HOW do you tell the difference?

    Ok a bit of an odd question, but if the piece is not signed, how would you determine if a bronze bust of AH was period or not?

    It weighs nearly 3kgs and stands about 10" high, the detail is incredible, but it isn't signed anywhere i can see.

    There are far more knowledgeable people regarding TR art than I, so it is a question i would like answered, for obvious reasons

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    Hi John, real bronze has never been cheap, so I think most fakes are not really solid bronze, but would be spelter. Patina would be another thing to look closely at. If the detail is good, I would imagine it would be OK?

    Cheers, Ade.

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    Quote by Adrian Stevenson View Post
    Hi John, real bronze has never been cheap, so I think most fakes are not really solid bronze, but would be spelter. Patina would be another thing to look closely at. If the detail is good, I would imagine it would be OK?

    Cheers, Ade.
    Thanks Ade, I thought I'd better put some pictures up to help a bit. Although it has real marble on the base, i feel that is it a later addition, as is the bolt also.

    But it is bronze, and bloody heavy, i just have a nasty niggle about it

    I wish I had all of the answers
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    Hi John, I see what you mean. I cannot say for certain either way, but I am not crazy about it. To me it appears to have no age patina.

    Send a PM to forum member Rob Truscott: Rob is comrade of mine from 2nd Guards and is an artist who works in bronze and gets his castings done in Russia.

    Cheers, Ade.

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    Not for me either - the detail is a dead giveaway - check out some of the previous postings realtive to Hitler busts and check out the detail on the hair etc -
    Horst
    "He who hesitates is lost - is not only lost but miles from the next exit"

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    shouldnt it be darker in colour or have a greenish hue to it ? also is it deffo metal John, i have heard that sometimes these are made of resin and a "last resort" to see is put a flame to it but it will bubble instantly, there isnt a real detail to it either as mentioned earlier,
    cheers Ronnie
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    John what's the initals on the nut maybe there is an engineer who can shed some light on that part of it
    cheers Ronnie

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    I would pass on it .fake jump to me the moment I saw it.It just looks too fresh to me.

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    Quote by 85ronnies View Post
    shouldnt it be darker in colour or have a greenish hue to it ?
    Errr no.................The greenish tinge only becomes apparent when left for a long time without handling. I've seen quite a few, but all have been signed. It is definitely Bronze, but I still have a niggle, in hand the detail is good. A pal of mine suggested that it could be chemically aged. Oh well, it just stays on my shelf

    Another loss

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    Quote by John Brandon View Post
    Errr no.................The greenish tinge only becomes apparent when left for a long time without handling. I've seen quite a few, but all have been signed. It is definitely Bronze, but I still have a niggle, in hand the detail is good. A pal of mine suggested that it could be chemically aged. Oh well, it just stays on my shelf

    Another loss
    just sell it as a good bronze copy mate

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