Thoughts on this M33 Italian Helmet

[maximus71]

Hi All,
Just picked up this Italian M33, what are your thoughts on the paint? any opinions are appreciated
Thank you

[plumbob]

looks like a good ww2 example with its original liner and chin strap (not being post war refitted as many were). so to me there is a good chance the overcoat paintwork is period. I like it.
that's all I can say, hopefully some of our M33 experts will come along.
Rod

[visor]

Any markings on the liner?

[Joda]

Can you take a closeup of the air vent and also the inner part of the air vent? A shot taken from the interior of the helmet..

[bigmacglenn]

I see the original Olive-Green beneath that crumbling brownish coat...
Other than that it matches the ones I've owned in the past...They can still be found at affordable prices, but that's changing...
cheers, Glenn

[maximus71]

More pics will be coming when Im off next week, the thick brownish paint is very old and crazing, not sure if it is some kind of period applied camo-ing reason but ive read that some were sent to spain and they painted them brown... getting hard to find originals with so many post war examples flooding the market.

[ziomanno]

Judging by the brown tone, in my opinion, this paint is an early post war job (around 1950); but the shell, liner, "grigioverde" color and chinstrap are WWII, and I bet the air vents too.
Try to find out the production code stamped on the rear, inner skirt.

[Gunny Hartmann]

Judging by the brown tone, in my opinion, this paint is an early post war job (around 1950); but the shell, liner, "grigioverde" color and chinstrap are WWII, and I bet the air vents too.
Try to find out the production code stamped on the rear, inner skirt.

I agree, an early post war respray!....

[Joda]

Yes it seems a postar work, but the last word is given by the airvents.
According to these picts I cannot understand if they are a 2nd or 4th model..and this is important.
Even if also the airvents are ok, it could be a wartime helmet reissued in the first '50s..
Let's wait for new closeups

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Yes it seems a postwar work, but the last word is given by the airvents.
According to these picts I cannot understand if they are a 2nd or 4th model..and this is important.
Even if also the airvents are ok, it could be a wartime helmet reissued in the first '50s..
Let's wait for new closeups

[maximus71]

UPDATE-I finally took the requested photo's, the liner is marked torino and size 60 (yes its a big boy!) the only marking I can find inside the shell on the rear skirt is P 109 I believe, sadly one of the liner bands is broken but what do you expect, this thing has been through alot and worn!! from what I can see there is what appears to be a black stencil under the overpaint on the front, so my conclusion is an original lid and liner, possibly a unit marked shell, repainted either 46-48 new republic reddish brown, or sent to spain after the war and repainted,(spanish brown repaints are pretty common from what Ive read and I most likely overpaid if that is the case)......maybe even used by an italian during the spanish civil war? if only the helmet could talk, either way it makes a great display piece and shows alot of character, curious to hear everyone's opinions and thank you for looking and helping!!!!!!!!!