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RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump' Finds!

Article about: Hi all, had a really hot day on site yesterday. But some good finds made as always All my finds ready to be cleaned Really pleased to find some MKIV Sten stocks, i have plenty so if anybody

  1. #21

    Default Re: RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump' Finds!

    I was out with my wife and daughter at the local Steam railway, (Great Central), and had a couple of minutes spare waiting for a train to take us back to the main station. I wandered off down the platform to the 1940s NAAFI cafe to have a look at the very small collection of stuff they have in there as a mini museum.

    This was in one of the cupboards. Shame mine wasn't in such good condition.



    RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump'  Finds!

    RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump'  Finds!

  2. #22

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    Hi all

    Well I paid a short visit to the army dump to get some bits to give away at The Victory Show. I had an hour spare so, of course, had to do a little bit of digging.

    WH had told me that he'd left lots of bayonet scabbard bits lying on the surface where he was so I went over that way and, sure enough, the spot where WH was was absolutely full of scabbard parts. After 15 minutes I moved over a little bit to the side of where WH had been digging to a spot where someone had started digging but left it fairly shallow. I dug down another 12 inches and hit a 'seam' of bayonet bits. I moved over and tracked the hole in a slightly different direction and hit a seam of something else. Sten stocks, butt plates and thousands upon thousands of MG Belt starter tabs !!!!! And I mean thousands ! I was pushing my hand into the seam and literally scoping out 50 tabs in one go.

    Unfortunately most were badly fire damaged but, once I find the edge of the fire, there will be plenty not damaged.

    So, for an hours quick bit of digging, here is what I recovered..............

    RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump'  Finds!

    I just took a couple of the MG belt starter tabs with me. I left about 1000 behind on the surface

    RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump'  Finds!

    Sten Mk 5 stocks

    RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump'  Finds!

    These bits are as rusty as hell but I think they could be weapon related. The small rod contains a spring and, as you can see, what looks like a firing pin. Anyone recognise these bits from any weapon ?

    RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump'  Finds!

    Buckles and gasmask bits

    RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump'  Finds!

    Butt plates. I've cleaned them up.....24 hours in vinegar then a scrub with a brillo pad

    RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump'  Finds!

    Lee-Enfield ones.....

    RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump'  Finds!

    This one I think is an Enfield-Snider, but it might not be

    RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump'  Finds!

    The tongue is nicely marked. Just working out the unit as I write

    RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump'  Finds!

    This one I think is an early Lee-Enfield butt plate

    RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump'  Finds!

    And is also marked.

    RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump'  Finds!

    Not bad for an hour Nice little spot just to the side of where WH had been digging at the weekend

    Laters

    Steve T
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    Most of the butt plates appear to be for Lee-Enfield Mark I rifles (long Lees). The "V" on the unit markings indicates a Volunteer unit, but I can't read the rest of the markings. Can you type them out please?

    Why do you think the tubular butts are Sten Mark V? The Mark V had a wood butt stock like a rifle.

    Regards
    TonyE
    British Military Smallarms and Ammunition
    Collector, Researcher and Pedant
    https://sites.google.com/site/britmilammo/

  4. #24

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    They were burnt Tony. The wooden stock has gone leaving just the metal components. They are definitely Mk V Sten stocks as they have the typical Sten mounting ring and lug.

    The Enfield-Snider butt plate says V Mx 18 S as far as I can tell

    Cheers

    Steve T

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    Default Re: RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump' Finds!

    Here you go Tony.....took some better pictures for you.

    As you can see, these are Mk 5 Sten stocks without the wooden stock itself, which has been burnt off as is the norm at the site where we get them from.


    RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump'  Finds!

    RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump'  Finds!

    RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump'  Finds!

    Mk 5 stock for comparison

    RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump'  Finds!

    Cheers

    Steve T
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    Fair enough! I did not realise they had been burned!

    The butt plate markings indicate issue to the Middlesex Volunteers (V Mx) The 18 should be a rack number, but not sure about the "S", unless it is a "5"?

    Regards
    TonyE
    British Military Smallarms and Ammunition
    Collector, Researcher and Pedant
    https://sites.google.com/site/britmilammo/

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    a couple of cleaned up gas mask front ends, both dated 1942 and eye pieces. These sat in vinegar for a about a week and then had a go over with the dremel

    RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump'  Finds!

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    Nice bit of cleaning there They look great

    Here's some more of my stuff cleaned up. Mk 5 Sten stocks.

    Just gave them a whack with the hammer to remove all the rust. Nice little display pieces

    RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump'  Finds!

    RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump'  Finds!

    RRPG Club dig 19.08.12 'Army Dump'  Finds!

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