Bayonet

**emerika** · 10-12-2010, 10:47 PM

i have no idea what it is , got this at flea market , no idea what it is if its real, not sure what forum this belongs in!!
Help all knowledgable edged weapons experts

thanx
Emerika

**Blitzkrieg Bop** · 10-12-2010, 10:49 PM

From Argentina, right? Regardless, nice bayonet.

**emerika** · 10-12-2010, 10:53 PM

i guess ? modelo argentino..1891 serial # or year?...what about the solingen marking? did they make it for argintina?

**Blitzkrieg Bop** · 10-12-2010, 10:58 PM

Yeah, they did. It was an export bayonet, which went for the Argentinian(? spelling ?) rifle. Where in Ohio are you from. I'm in Cleveland.

**emerika** · 10-12-2010, 11:01 PM

oh the wonderful little shit hole of mansfield!!! so we r kind of neighbors!

**Blitzkrieg Bop** · 10-12-2010, 11:02 PM

You made me laugh. It isn't that bad though. I have a friend who lives there. I guess in his neigborhood it is nice. Not so sure about the rest.

**emerika** · 10-12-2010, 11:14 PM

ehh, there are some decent parts, i guess its more the people that make it a shithole! you dont happen to work in a tat shop do ya? im sure there are many more collectors in the stinky cleve that the one i met

**emerika** · 10-12-2010, 11:15 PM

and, id really like to go to a good militaria show, if you know of any could you let me know?

**Blitzkrieg Bop** · 10-12-2010, 11:38 PM

Well, there is the Show Of Shows in Kentucky, February of this year. I am going. The Ohio Gun show near you and I have a lot of militaria. Usually at good prices. I really don't work, because I'm 14. I wish I could.

**Swordfish** · 10-13-2010, 01:11 AM

I believe this bayo is, well..... simply an Argentine military forces rifle bayo. The bayo is designated as a Model 1891 in the Argetine military vernacular (probably designed as an early K98-esque German design). As you guys know, it was manufactured in Germany, by Weyersberg in the industrial Ruhr city of Solingen, for export to Argentina to be used as a rifle bayo. My guess, and i'm not 100% certain, is that the Argentine military were using 7.65 mm Mauser rifles as thier standard military service long gun. As you know, Argentina, especially under the presidency of Juan Peron, had strong ties with Germany. In many respects, they still do and they have a diverse populous with many Europeans from all over Europe as citizens. I can't give you a date of manufacture, but i'm guessing from the late 40's or early 50's. In place of the wooden grip plates typically associated with the '98 pattern bayo, and also likely associated with the Argentine 1891 for that matter, we see an aluminum composite instead. Perhaps Argentina preferred the use of less corrosive and rot prone materials for use in both the Argentine Navy and other Army forces. Also, perhaps because Argentina is a coastal nation the military hardware would be more subject to saltwater corrosion.

Bill G and a couple of the other bayo guys can probably give you some better info.