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    Default Bayonet identification

    All I have are these pictures, don't know where it came from. Can anyone identify?
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    It looks british made for India. 1907 Indian pattern. I'm sure someone will tell you that is more of an expert than I am. Cheers.

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    Quote by Blitzkrieg Bop View Post
    It looks british made for India. 1907 Indian pattern. I'm sure someone will tell you that is more of an expert than I am. Cheers.
    Almost right

    Almost means this is not "british made" - its made in India for India. Look at the lower row of marking - R.F.I. (Rifle Factory Ishapur)

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    These bayonets were made in india for the SMLE Mk III rifle.
    The original english bayonets were too long and to heavy for the tender indians.
    So Ishapur arsenal made smaller (lighter) bayonets for the native soldiers.

    Jean

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    kvanderstel

    The blade markings (and the other comments) say it all.

    Interestingly the simplified squared pommel and parallel side grips are actually the Mk III pattern. These features involve less manufacturing work than the previous SMLE bayonet designs.

    Ian Skennerton in his book on British & Commonwealth Bayonets notes that many Mk IIIs have "Mk II" on the blade just like yours. The deciding factor however is the pommel/grip design.

    Possibly making use of blades already produced for the Mk II.

    Crown/GRI = Georgius Rex Imperator - the Royal and Imperial Cypher of King George the 6th.

    Regards

    Richie

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    Anyone want to hazard a guess on it's value?

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    Quote by kvanderstel View Post
    Anyone want to hazard a guess on it's value?
    RFI [ Rifle Factory Ishapore]

    WWII Indian bayonets without scabbard, probably around $20

    I read they made these for better use in the thick jungles, the longer M1907 blade was too long for jungle use.

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    Sorry. I though britain made them, and exported them to india.

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    Can Anyone help me to identify these... I am at a loss... Thanks...m
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    A possible identification is a Confederate bayonet made by Boyle, Gamble and MacFee.

    A bayonet with a very similar hilt is listed in Kiesling's Bayonets of the World ref # 1011 and also in Le Nouvel Atlas de la Baionnette de Collection ref # 1382.

    These have an overall length of 629mm [25 inches] and a blade length of 510mm [20 inches]. The one you show appears to be shorter.

    This website shows some similar bayonets.

    https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...55534169,d.d2k

    US Civil War bayonets are not my speciality, I do know that there a lot of fakes although I am not commenting on the authenticity of your example.

    Regards

    Richie

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