Help ID bayos please!

**matthewsq** · 08-19-2011, 06:49 PM

Hey guys,

Spotted these 2 bayos for sale, I want to know what they are before I decide whether to buy or not. I cant place what they are! Thanks! Quinn

Heres the second one

**ian** · 08-19-2011, 07:37 PM

its a mauser bayonet defanatly
i think ??? spanish
but mauser

**matthewsq** · 08-19-2011, 07:40 PM

Thanks for the quick answer! Are you referring to the top bayo or the bottom bayo?

**ian** · 08-19-2011, 07:44 PM

the things that point me to mauser are ,, the catch ,, and the grip screws
the blade is a bit odd in desighn
but ,, i still think its a mauser made bayonet for export
to which country ?? i think mabe spain
it couldalso be an export to most any arab country
im sure others will give you better advice now when i say mauser made,,mabe i should say made for a m,auser
but that is what i think cheers ian

**lithgow** · 08-19-2011, 08:10 PM

Top bayo is a Belgian M1916/24 for their M1889 Rifle.

**lithgow** · 08-19-2011, 08:17 PM

Bottom bayo appears to have the pommel mounted at 90 degrees to proper position on handle-I would suspect an incorrect repair.

**matthewsq** · 08-19-2011, 08:32 PM

alright so the top is a belgian and the bottom is a mauser export with a failed repair? I have never seen a bayonet like the bottom one besides the lee metford 1888 bayo. Thanks for the replies!

**Frogprince** · 08-19-2011, 09:42 PM

Not in my area, but it may be a Dutch Model 1895 Mannlicher with a piece of the blade tip missing. FP

**emileverbunt** · 08-19-2011, 09:56 PM

The bottom one is Dutch, albeit modified by the Germans in WW2 after capture en reissue. The German nomenclature is: SEITENGEWEHR 104 (h)
(German WW2 converted M1895 "Carbine No.3 & No.4" Bayonet)
This bayonet was purposely manufactured (by Alexander Coppel in Germany for the Dutch. Look at the balance; their logo) with the pommel that way, to accomodate bicycle troops. It caused less wear to the uniforms that way!

Cheers,
Emile

**lithgow** · 08-19-2011, 10:14 PM

Looking at the bottom bayo again the handle and strange pommel could be the Dutch Artillery M1895 type which is rare but the blade for that type is a T back type one and much longer-as prev stated it may have been damaged and reshaped. I take it that there are no scabbards with these 2 bayos.