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    Lebel shorter version,alpaca handle but i cant find who is maker????Lebel  1886/35Lebel  1886/35Lebel  1886/35Lebel  1886/35Lebel  1886/35Lebel  1886/35

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    Hi SRB,
    How long is the blade? Any pictures of the end of the scabbard? The Germans modified these to the following specifications:

    Blade length: 342mm
    Bayonet overall length: 460mm
    Scabbard length: 362mm

    The known German examples appear to have a bayonet tip that has a more pronounced, pointier tip. The end of the scabbards were modified/shortened to accommodate the shorter blade length and the tipped with a domed end secured by a rivet.

    I've heard that the French shortened the bayonet blades for the Mle.1886/M.93/R35 carbines to 400mm, but I have not heard any confirmation of this.

    Best,
    Pat

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    its 460mm
    In 1935 a final modification was made .... bayonets by cutting the blades down to about 460mm and adapting the scabbards to this new length. The new pattern would be called Mle.1886-35.
    and germans also shortening this bayonets.
    but dont know who make my bayonet.
    im find this typ make in usa...

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    Hello,

    the german modification in fact has often shorter blades than the regulation rules...between 310mm and 340 mm also existed min. 4 new scabbard ends / caps. There were in the white or blued.

    The Épée Baïonnette Modèle 1886 / C 35 or Épée Baïonnette Modèle 1886 / 15 / C 35 has a blade lengt of 400mm by a total length of 518 mm. There were shorted since 1936.
    The metalparts of the bayonet were parkerized / phosphated in a dark grey colour. The scabbard was blued and often painted black.

    Here is a real Épée Baïonnette Modèle 1886 / C 35:
    Click to enlarge the picture Click to enlarge the picture Lebel  1886/35   Lebel  1886/35  

    Lebel  1886/35   Lebel  1886/35  

    Lebel  1886/35   Lebel  1886/35  

    Lebel  1886/35   Lebel  1886/35  


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    Hello
    more informations:
    short lebel bayonet & frog
    cordially
    Didier

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    Im interested what they markings:
    C, F and CN on blade,
    on handle C ,E AND number 3.

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    The bayonet is shortage of M1886, 465mm lenght correspond for german shortage. what is the serial number on crossguard? as the parts were made by various plants, is hard to determine.b.r.Andy

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    on bayonet - D 703891
    scabard - P 20747

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    D = Manufacture Nationale d'Armes de Châtellerault ( MAC )

    P = Manufacture Nationale d'Armes de Saint-Étienne ( MAS )

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