Bundeswehr beret question

[mayralphie]

Is this beret original and correct. Dated 1970

[mayralphie]

Reason I am asking is everything I have read says Recon troops wore black berets.

[stonemint]

Ralphie, I am moving this to the BRD forum--not our area.

[FtrPlt]

Jägertruppe, Panzergrenadiertruppe, Heeressoldaten des Wachbataillons BMVg,[A 23] Soldatinnen und Soldaten der Gebirgsjägertruppe, die nicht in der Gebirgsjägerbrigade 23, im Gebirgssanitätsregiment 42, im Gebirgsmusikkorps, im Bundesministerium der Verteidigung, in Kommandobehörden, in Ämtern, Schulen[A 24], Landeskommandos[A 25] und integrierten Stäben[A 26] eingesetzt sind[A 27], Stabsmusikkorps der Bundeswehr, Musikkorps der Bundeswehr, Wehrbereichsmusikkorps I und III,[A 28] Heeresmusikkorps Kassel[A 29]

[oradour]

Ralph, your beret has the wrong badge attached, green berets were ..........Jagertruppe, Panzergrenadiertruppe and Wachtbatallion.
You are correct that Panzertruppe, Panzeraufklarungstruppe (which is the badge you have), Heeresaufklarungstruppe and Panzerjager (until 1990) wore black berets. see my black Panzeraufklarungstruppe beret below...........
It is common in the surplus stores to see incorrect badges attached to the wrong colour beret............easily and cheaply fixed.
Prost ! Steve.

[CBH]

Could someone tell me what the Eagle with lighting bolts badge is , also what color beret it would go on ?
Cheers Chris

[oradour]

Could someone tell me what the Eagle with lighting bolts badge is , also what color beret it would go on ?
Cheers Chris

Certainly Chris, it is the badge of the "Fernspahertruppe" worn on a Bordeauxrot (Bordeaux red) beret, same as Fallschirmjagertruppe and KSK (special forces/commandos).
The Fernspahertruppe were among the operational and management support troops of the Bundeswehr.
Main task was the extraction of key information/intelligence deep behind enemy lines by small operating patrols ......disbanded 2008, with most switching to KSK BW special forces........
Prost ! Steve.

[CBH]

Thank you kindly for the quick response , I have a beret that will match . I'll post it at some point .
Cheers Chris

[mayralphie]

Thanks for the information. I have another one that is on black beret that's why I was curious about thus one. Charlie

[Watchdog]

Certainly Chris, it is the badge of the "Fernspahertruppe" worn on a Bordeauxrot (Bordeaux red) beret, same as Fallschirmjagertruppe and KSK (special forces/commandos).
The Fernspahertruppe were among the operational and management support troops of the Bundeswehr.
Main task was the extraction of key information/intelligence deep behind enemy lines by small operating patrols ......disbanded 2008, with most switching to KSK BW special forces........
Prost ! Steve.

In English speaking armies the role of these troops is usually described as long range recce / recon.

Mark