Allgemeine-SS EM/NCO Schirmütze: FAKE !

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    Question Allgemeine-SS EM/NCO Schirmütze: FAKE !

    Hello Gentlemen,

    First time I saw this type of markings on a A-SS cap (swastika under the sweatshielf with A3-...).

    Was aware of the "Ordenburgen" fakes with this markings, but not for the SS caps...

    thoughts are welcome

    Thank you.

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    Default re: "New" A-SS EM/NCO Schirmütze: FAKE !

    I am aware of a fake Reichleiter's hat with the same markings, in gold leaf, under the sweat diamond. They are clever and dangerous fakes. The quality of the hats are very high, but 'guilding the lily' with such a ridiculous maker mark, leads one to furthger examine the hat and find the flaws. On the SS hat pictured, above, the fake SS Dienstmutze label is also of assistance in indentiying the hat as a fake.

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    Default re: "New" A-SS EM/NCO Schirmütze: FAKE !

    i can tell you that is a brilliant fake it looks a lot like the real thing just the markings give it away

    tom

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    Default re: "New" A-SS EM/NCO Schirmütze: FAKE !

    The best fake I have ever seen so far.

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    Default re: "New" A-SS EM/NCO Schirmütze: FAKE !

    Who and where are they selling this ' fake'.

    If its not genuine , name and shame.

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    Default re: "New" A-SS EM/NCO Schirmütze: FAKE !

    In all honesty, this one would not have fooled many collectors. The one that caused all the hoo har on WAF recently was a generation above and beyond this one in terms of construction and materials but I'm still in two mind whether all I've been told is accurate. Watch this space as they say...
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    Default re: "New" A-SS EM/NCO Schirmütze: FAKE !

    This maker mark is a total fantasy, down to the RZM # (which is an A3 code). On their officer products they use brushed cotton instead of velvet.

    I'm with Ben--the one that was posted on the Headgear forum was light-years beyond this.
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    Default re: "New" A-SS EM/NCO Schirmütze: FAKE !

    See this thread for the fake Ben and I are referring to:


    http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/cap-au...-review-78224/
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    Default re: "New" A-SS EM/NCO Schirmütze: FAKE !

    Here is the unredacted logo on an NSDAP visor:
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    Default re: "New" A-SS EM/NCO Schirmütze: FAKE !

    these fakers seem to be getting a lot better (annoyingly)

    tom

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