Authentification before purchase_Black visor cap

[Collect18]

Hi guys,
Following my previous post about an officer cap, here are some photos of a black visor cap that I have the opportunity to get.
The opinion of our experts would be very valuable!
Thanks a lot!

[Migobeego]

Insignia are good in my opinion, which is a good start. Good luck with the rest.
Regards,
MG

[ErWeSa]

A2 143 was August Müller, München. This would have been one for F.-B. What this cap shows me is my lack of knowledge concerning black caps. They are the literal minefield - does the ensemble of lining (yours would be for an Extramütze as the ordinary EM/NCO caps had the crude brownish lining or the brownisch oilcloth lining), the type of the RZM-tag and the way it is sewn into the cap, the stamp on the visor/peak, what is behind the sweatband (reddish foam rubber?) correspond to the/an era when the cap was made? Too many factors for me to assemble/to process. It looks convincing, though. Looking forward to the specialists' opinion with experince in this field.

[Aldo]

I came across this cap in the OP at auction and found it credible. I am far from being an expert but I agree that it is very convincing. everything on the cap seems in order except for the interior, but then I found these images of another August Müller cap that recently sold exhibiting a similar interior. Perhaps this maker used a different liner than others









Credit: Kelly Hicks

[ErWeSa]

In this specimen the size is stamped in as with the others Müllers I saw, in the OP it is part of the gilt logo. Wish for all the black cap collectors F.-B. hadn't been banned!

[Aldo]

In this specimen the size is stamped in as with the others Müllers I saw, in the OP it is part of the gilt logo. Wish for all the black cap collectors F.-B. hadn't been banned!

Yes you're right. It is our monumental loss that F-B is not here.

[reneblacky]

I can't comment on the cap but I can post a irrelevant army AM interior

[ErWeSa]

Congratulations if the outside is as nice at the inside! Here is one of Chris':

https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/attac...t-img_3094.jpg

Something I can only dream of.

[stonemint]

Good Mueller Sonderanfertigung.

[vibmon]

That's a great looking visor but I don't think it'll be a great buy for us in the USA since Hermann charges a 25% fee (commission + VAT). I bet it goes for at least $6000 Euro + $1500Euro which would equate to $8236 USD, then add shipping/insurance. Don't know where you are, OP, but something to consider. Several available on well known sites...it is a nice Muller though.