Early SS cap

**sandgroper** · 04-15-2017, 04:57 AM

Gday gents,
I was over at a mates place this morning and he showed me this cap, it looks pretty authentic to me but there is every likely hood that I'm wrong so I wondered whether I could have a more informed opinion from those who are much more knowledgeable on this subject than I will ever be. It has an rzm tag which I thought should not be there but according to Wikipedia these tags were found in caps like this much earlier than I'd have expected. It'll take a couple of posts to upload the pics I have but any opinions will be much appreciated. Thanks fellas.

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 04-15-2017 04:57 AM

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**Walkwolf** · 04-15-2017, 05:00 AM

From these pics alone, most probably bad - though wait
for more experienced members to weigh in
with their thoughts..........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFLfI_dHraI

**sandgroper** · 04-15-2017, 05:12 AM

Thanks Steve, having dramas loading up the other pics anyway so I might try a bit later, sometimes this iPad needs a recovery rest period!

**sandgroper** · 04-15-2017, 05:31 AM

got one loaded.

**sandgroper** · 04-15-2017, 05:34 AM

**Wilhelm Saris** · 04-15-2017, 10:32 AM

The tag included is not for cap makers, as they have either A1 and A2, but this is for cloth insigna (A4).
It looks to me as a fake, but I am not sure. If there was one it is a large tag white one, which has the
wording Tuchmütze. Even the early visored caps (SS-Dienstmütze) do have a large white tag,
anyway since about 1934.

**sandgroper** · 04-15-2017, 11:30 AM

Thank you very much Wilhelm, I really appreciate your help. I'm not looking forward to telling my mate but he needs to know. Thanks sgain.

**Wilhelm Saris** · 04-15-2017, 12:12 PM

It is possible some person - not knowing facts - "glued" in the wrong
tag postwar.
From photos I can't make out if the cap could be okay. It's the "touch
and smell". The sweat-band seems replaced into a black one.