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Kriegsmarine Schiffchen?

Article about: Hello Friends, I'd appreciate your input on this Schiffchen, please...Kriegsmarine? I'm cautiously optimistic, as I see what appears to be evidence of the eagle-removal, and the liner-materi

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    Hello Friends,
    I'd appreciate your input on this Schiffchen, please...Kriegsmarine? I'm cautiously optimistic, as I see what appears to be evidence of the eagle-removal, and the liner-material seems okay to me as well, but I've been wrong before, lol...
    cheers, Glenn
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    Glenn, I could be wrong but I'm not liking this as a KM. Maybe it's to color. Field gray was issued originally and the dark blue in 1938.

    But also the angle of the side skirts. I think they should be in a high arc, not this steps fashion. The KM is very similar to a Luft side cap as well.

    Happy to have others prove me wrong.

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    Thanks for your input, it's not fieldgrey...it's more a faded dark blue...How does the liner material and weave pattern look to you? Click on the photos for a closer look...Or is it Luftwaffe?
    cheers, Glenn

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    Here is a pic (poor quality I just snapped) of my Heer, Luft and Kriegs. I also looked at my RAD, and a few others I have and they don't match up either.

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    Let me go look at the insides of mine. Will be back in a jiffy
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    Too many variants for me to be sure...we're talking about many producers...Still on the fence with this one...Thanks for the photos, Michael!
    cheers, Glenn

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    Here are the insides. The named one is my Luft. The KM is a bit washed out due to the flash. It is much darker.

    Much of the info I got straight from Gary Wilkins book (I've read it 2 or 3 times). But not saying there aren't variants

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    My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them

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    The exterior weave looks very similar to my Luft. But the liner weave is different (from what I can tell)
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    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    Thanks for the great photos...that's what I needed to see...the weave pattern of the lining, which appear to match...color variants are to be expected...as long as it isn't postwar Bundesmarine, and considering the source, I'm satisfied that it's period LW, not KM after all...thanks again!
    cheers, Glenn
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    I'm not saying it is this, but exterior style is very very close.

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    Oh no...not even close...I grew up in Germany playing with those as a kid...I know those too well to be fooled by them, lol...
    cheers, GLenn

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