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Is this Luftwaffe NCO's Schirmmütze OK? Ebay find...

Article about: Hi all, I collect 99.9% US WW2 items, but saw a Buy-it-Now for a Luftwaffe EM/NCO visor cap the other day for just under \\$500 including postage. The story with it is that the seller's grandf

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    Hi all,

    I collect 99.9% US WW2 items, but saw a Buy-it-Now for a Luftwaffe EM/NCO visor cap the other day for just under $500 including postage. The story with it is that the seller's grandfather had traded a pack of cigarettes for it from a German POW. The last place I ever thought I would buy a TR cap was on eBay - but when it popped up, it looked good to me, so I pulled the trigger.
    I hope I did OK...

    Thanks!











    Note the staining of the sweatband at the front, under the visor:




    The unit name? Was 12 Staffel, now 6. Staffel:





    The maker's name and date - 1937:





    Finally, the name of the owner!


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    Hi Mel, welcome to the Forum.

    Good original EM cap. Great score, although the eagle is breast insignia
    for Officers. ( Bonus ! - If it's original, these are worth around $125 ! )
    Take a look at the reverse - there will be a long pin, where an original
    EM cap eagle would be about one third smaller and have 3 bendable
    prongs holding it in place.

    You can find a proper eagle for it. Not difficult.........
    Last edited by Walkwolf; 05-07-2012 at 07:55 AM.
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    It is original, well done. I like it.

    Cheers, Pat

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    Looks like a good original flight/para enlisted cap. I have a similiar cap, also made by Geb. Alm.

    BobS

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    Welcome to the forum sir.
    A very nice cap.

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    Quote by SteveR View Post
    Welcome to the forum sir.
    A very nice cap.
    Appreciate the welcome and compliment!

    But it's "Ma'am" for me

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    Quote by Walkwolf View Post
    Hi Mel, welcome to the Forum.

    Good original EM cap. Great score, although the eagle is breast insignia
    for Officers. ( Bonus ! - If it's original, these are worth around $125 ! )
    Take a look at the reverse - there will be a long pin, where an original
    EM cap eagle would be about one third smaller and have 3 bendable
    prongs holding it in place.

    You can find a proper eagle for it. Not difficult.........
    Excellent news!!! You know, I was wondering why the bottom of the insignia was banging onto the cockade... and then realized that it is, as you quickly noted, a breast eagle! I will take a photo of the reverse and the sides of the pin; curious to hear if it's original. The one concern I have is that the pin mounting points appear to be soldered on. Curiously, the holes in the cap seem to indicate that this pin has been there for a while...

    Do you think it would be possible to eventually ID the owner?

    I guess this would be my starting point:

    1) Last name was Bottcher/Boettcher
    2) May have been from Berlin
    3) Was a POW in Europe (where the seller's grandfather was)
    4) Was in the 6.Staffel
    5) Had the rank of ...... (please help me here - is there any way to discern if he was an EM or NCO?

    Cheers,
    Melanie

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