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Original or fahe German Navy visor hat ? Kriegsmarine schirmmutze

Article about: Hi guys I have too many different opinions on this one. Seller (friend) claimed it's genuine wartime piece. I have wondered about hat's eagle (head) and later got opinions it's FAKE . So i t

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    Default Original or fahe German Navy visor hat ? Kriegsmarine schirmmutze

    Hi guys
    I have too many different opinions on this one.
    Seller (friend) claimed it's genuine wartime piece.
    I have wondered about hat's eagle (head) and later got opinions it's FAKE .
    So i thought it's original wartime hat with replaced adler , what wouldn't be that uncommon .
    Now i also got few opinions that entire hat might be dodgy.
    So i wonder if that might be postwar hat with added fake insignias ?
    Any help will be appreciated .
    Thank you

    Big detailed photos from all angles over here ....
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    Also i've compared sweat diamond to Heeres schirmmutze and it does look the same to me , i'd say it's rather cellophane or celluloid (don't realy know difference between these two ) than plastic sweat diamond . but not 100% sure as some worn thin very old plastic might look the same. i'm not experienced with that .
    cheers
    Petr

    Original or fahe German Navy visor hat ? Kriegsmarine schirmmutze
    Original or fahe German Navy visor hat ? Kriegsmarine schirmmutze
    Original or fahe German Navy visor hat ? Kriegsmarine schirmmutze
    Original or fahe German Navy visor hat ? Kriegsmarine schirmmutze
    Original or fahe German Navy visor hat ? Kriegsmarine schirmmutze
    Original or fahe German Navy visor hat ? Kriegsmarine schirmmutze
    Original or fahe German Navy visor hat ? Kriegsmarine schirmmutze
    Original or fahe German Navy visor hat ? Kriegsmarine schirmmutze
    Original or fahe German Navy visor hat ? Kriegsmarine schirmmutze
    Original or fahe German Navy visor hat ? Kriegsmarine schirmmutze
    Original or fahe German Navy visor hat ? Kriegsmarine schirmmutze
    Last edited by petrwarry; 04-01-2018 at 01:48 PM. Reason: typing mitakes

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    The eagle is unusual.

    The chinstrap is not typical KM.

    What is the stiffener made out of that is under the lining?
    “Show me the regulation, and I’ll show you the exception.”

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    You may want to compare it to the original examples here:

    KM-NCO Visors
    “Show me the regulation, and I’ll show you the exception.”

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    Quote by stonemint View Post
    The eagle is unusual.
    The chinstrap is not typical KM.
    What is the stiffener made out of that is under the lining?
    yep, that was first what came to my mind although i'm anything but expert :-)
    sorry what means stiffener ? inner part of hat's band , behind blue cloth ?
    cheers

    edit : i can not as it doesnt let me in

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    Quote by petrwarry View Post
    yep, that was first what came to my mind although i'm anything but expert :-)
    sorry what means stiffener ? inner part of hat's band , behind blue cloth ?
    cheers
    Yes, it is either a treated white gauze/celluloid/treated cardboard.
    “Show me the regulation, and I’ll show you the exception.”

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    You may also want to compare it to these Bundesmarine poseurs:

    BRD & DDR Marine Visors Posing as Kriegsmarine
    “Show me the regulation, and I’ll show you the exception.”

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    Lastly, you may want to check to see if your type of insignia is being worn by any of the individuals in these portrait photos:

    KM EM/NCO Visors in Wear
    “Show me the regulation, and I’ll show you the exception.”

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    Quote by stonemint View Post
    Yes, it is either a treated white gauze/celluloid/treated cardboard.
    thank you , i will check.
    as for links you shared , i can't see them as it doesn't let me in
    cheers

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    Quote by petrwarry View Post
    thank you , i will check.
    as for links you shared , i can't see them as it doesn't let me in
    cheers
    You have to be a Paying member to see some parts of the forum, 25$us will open it all up for you.

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    Quote by petrwarry View Post
    thank you , i will check.
    as for links you shared , i can't see them as it doesn't let me in
    cheers
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