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Pre WWII german or austrian visor cap?

Article about: Hello Guys! I bought this cap on saturday. It looks like a Bundesbahn cap, but the material is similar than the WWII visor caps. Ther liner is leather. I didn't find same caps on the interne

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    Default Pre WWII german or austrian visor cap?

    Hello Guys!

    I bought this cap on saturday. It looks like a Bundesbahn cap, but the material is similar than the WWII visor caps. Ther liner is leather. I didn't find same caps on the internet. The badge is missing unfortunately.
    Could you help me to identify it?

    Thank you!

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    Postwar cap--not Austrian, but German.
    Not sure of the organisation---could be mining, but they usually have a black velvet band.
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    Hello levaid,

    it is not an Austrian cap and it is not a pre- but a postwar cap. The cockade is one of the BRD. Could be a fireman's cap but the colour of the piping appears to be red - firemen's caps piping were more carmine.
    What exactly does the tag in the sweat diamond say? Schw. Gmünd could be Schwäbisch Gmünd, a town in Baden-Württemberg/Germany. The rest is illegible - coud you post a better picture?

    One of the specialists will tell you what exactly it is.

    EDIT: Stonemint was quicker than me - not for the first time!
    Last edited by ErWeSa; 09-05-2016 at 09:16 PM.

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    Bravo, Wolfgang. It is Schwaebisch Gmuend, plainly.
    damit, basta.

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    Quote by ErWeSa View Post
    Schw. Gmünd could be Schwäbisch Gmünd, a town in Baden-Württemberg/Germany. The rest is illegible - coud you post a better picture?
    Schwäbisch Gmünd, as you said, then Kiesäcker (followed by the house number, but I can't quite make that one out).

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    Servus, Andreas. Wir sind alle sehr froh beisammen.
    damit, basta.

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    Thank you all! The text inside is: Franz Stelzner - Schw. Gmünd - Kiesdeker 4/1.

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    Froh zu sein bedarf es wenig, und wer froh ist...

    Erinnert mich an die Volksschulzeit, schöner Kanon! Wenn man denn (noch) froh sein könnte...
    The imponderabilia of life.
    levaid: HPL2008 is right, it is Kiesäcker! (Which doesn't help to identify the cap.)

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