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Article about: by mrg Hello Mr. Stonemint thanks for the advice but I would like to point out that the same hat that you has entered in the forum "cap authentication-Reichsleiter by Hertlein," on

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    Hello Mr. Stonemint thanks for the advice but I would like to point out that the same hat that you has entered in the forum "cap authentication-Reichsleiter by Hertlein," on p. 2 In fact, the pictures posted are taken by a well-known site and mine and the same hat but with its attributes attached. I wonder why and posted on the forum "cap authentication" if it is a copy? Thanks Mr.G
    I would like to help you out with why this is a fake. Hertlein is one of the top 3 most faked visors (do a forum search and you will see what I mean).

    First of all, the piping is very sloppy/wavy.
    Second, the interior is a typical postwar liner which has been rubberized (& think about it--would a hat be made for a Reichsleiter with an EM/NCO interior?)
    Third, the band is not the standard wartime velvet--it is brushed wool/cotton.
    The wreath is also fake.

    Lastly, it lacks typical Hertlein wartime features.
    I will post some standard wartime Hertlein features, both early and late war.
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    Thanks for your help and for providing details that did not know.
    Mr.G

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    Many of the mid- to late-war Hertleins used a dual-tone lining--ie, the top lining is waterproofed oilcloth (note it is not rubbery), with contrasting side panels.

    Hertlein used 2 logos--the simple logo and the more extravagant one, which appears to have been used only on their higher quality hats.

    All three of these interiors are wartime Hertleins:
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    What is common to many (although not all) Hertlein fakes is the fact that the logo on the fakes is reversed, as compared to the wartime logo:
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    Here is the brushed cotton that is common to so many of these NSDAP fakes--it should always be velvet:
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    & lastly, here is another of those fake wreaths--they are always (poorly) artificially aged:
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    Here are a bunch of reverse-logo (ie, fake) Hertleins. The logo is not reversible, due to the fact that it is the official City of Erlangen crest (note the "C" & the "E" are reversed):
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    Here are some original Hertleins--note the C & E are on the breast of the eagle on the right, and are not reversed:
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    2 pics of the Wappen for Erlangen during the Third Reich:
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    Terrific! I hope you can have your money back!

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