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    Some more interesting Information to the Kaserne (Burg) in Wr. Neustadt .. Gfm Rommel was also there for some time



    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theres...C3%A4rakademie
    Da werden unsere anglophonen Kollegen wohl ein wenig deutsch lernen müssen

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    Da werden unsere anglophonen Kollegen wohl ein wenig deutsch lernen müssen
    And the English speaker here does well to have a working knowledge of German, and even Austrian German, given how melodic it is. Or even Wiener Dialekt,
    or alt Schoenbrunner, as spoken in the officer's mess of the emperor etc.
    damit, basta.

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    he Theresian Military Academy (in brief: TherManAk, English Theresan Military Academy, Latin Alma Mater Theresiana) is the only training center for military officers of the Austrian Armed Forces. It is located in the castle in Wiener Neustadt (Lower Austria).

    Table of Contents

    1 history
    2 functions
    2.1 Military Real Gymnasium
    2.2 Troop Training
    2.2.1 Recording conditions
    2.2.2 FH course of studies
    2.2.3 Troop Training Course
    2.3 Officer training
    2.4 Cross-curricular training cooperation
    2.5 Representation
    3 Tradition
    3.1 A E I O U
    3.2 Military-Maria-Theresien-Order
    3.3 Faithful to death!
    3.4 Sampling
    4 people
    4.1 Known graduates of the military academy
    4.1.1 Graduates before 1918 (year of withdrawal)
    4.1.2 Graduates after 1918 (year of dismantling)
    4.2 Commander of MilAk (selection)
    4.2.1 Second Republic
    4.3 Special persons associated with the building of the Theresian military academy
    5 See also
    6 References
    7 Weblinks
    8 Single sign

    story

    The Theresian military academy was founded under Maria Theresia on December 14, 1751, with the order, "Make me efficient officers and righteous men," to the first commander, Field Marshal Leopold Joseph of Daun, and is therefore the oldest active military academy devoted to officer training World. It is worth noting that since 1752, with the exception of the occupation, the war and destruction years of the Third Reich have housed the Militärakademie, whereas the Royal Military Academy Woolwich, founded in 1741, was closed in 1939. The Royal Military Academy Sandhurst, founded in 1947, continues the tradition of its predecessor academy in an idealistic sense. In Wiener Neustadt, on the other hand, since 1752 almost 100 per cent of 100 nobles and 100 citizens have been accepted every year. The officers of the Austro-Hungarian Army were also trained here until 1918.

    The name "Militärakademie" has been applied since the association with the Pflanzschule für Kadetten in 1769. Already in 1771, a regulated study plan was drawn up by the local director, Johann Georg Carl Freiherr von Hannig, and in 1775 the academy regulations sanctioned by Maria Theresia. The training period was then eleven years and was gradually shortened to three years.

    The famous Styrian archduke Johann of Austria was 44 years (from 1805 to 1849) super-director of the Theresian military academy.

    In the first republic the training was carried out in Enns until 1934 and then again in Wiener Neustadt. A special feature in the period between Austro-Fascism and the Anschluss is the refusal of Generalmajor Rudolf Towarek (1933-1938 commander of the Militärakademie) to surrender the castle of the German military force invaded Austria. He had the guards marched up with bayonets, and refused to allow the defenses to enter the castle for several days. This act had no negative effect on Generalmajor Towarek except for his retirement. He even got permission to continue wearing the Austrian uniform after his retirement.

    A war school for the officers' training was set up by Colonel Erwin Rommel, the later general field marshal, immediately after the Anschluss, which he himself initially directed. To the school came also the down-barracks. [1]

    Toward the end of the Second World War the castle was almost completely destroyed by bombs, fires and looting. It burned completely in April and May 1945 within almost 14 days. The remaining ruins were reconstructed in their historical form during the reconstruction in the years 1946 to 1959, but the interior was adapted to the temporal requirements. Thus the military academy was able to resume operations in 1958. [2]
    Main portal of the Theresian military academy

    After the establishment of the Bundeswehr in 1955, the military academy was again accommodated in Enns until 1958, from where it subsequently relocated to the castle of Wiener Neustadt after the damage caused by the Second World War had been repaired.

    The flag of the first flag of the military academy is exhibited in the Vienna Military History Museum. It was donated by Maria Theresia just before her death 1780 for the first flag, supposedly she embroidered it personally. Under the banner are two pictures (Gouaches) by Bernhard Albrecht (1758-1822). Albrecht was an instructor of the military academy and also described the pupils in their military and sporting exercises. [3] Thus the pictures show scenes like "practice shooting with mortars" and "balancing exercises of the cadets on the high beam bridge". The leaves were produced between 1785 and 1793. [4]

    The current commander is Brigadier Karl Pronhagl. [5]
    functions

    The TherMilAk serves several functions: the training for the formation of troops, the training of officers, the training of officer officers, the interdisciplinary training co-operation as well as various representational purposes of the Bundesheeresbundesheer and the city of Wiener Neustadt.
    Military Realgymnasium

    The Daunkaserne, located on the site of the castle in Wiener Neustadt, formed or forms the home for the former Bundesrealgymnasium für Berufstätige as well as the military real gymnasium. Between 1959 and 2012, there was the Federal Real Gymnasium for Professional Services (BRGfB). Batches and unofficial activities should enable a further qualification in the service of the Second Educational Path, and thus the possibility to advance to an officer's career. This path of education became obsolete, especially through the introduction of the study qualification examination. The Bundesoberstufenrealgymnasium at the Theresian military academy "Militärrealgymnasium" (Military Real Gymnasium) is a military training institution with a boarding school, which has existed since September 1965. It stands in a way in the tradition of the Austrian military school and its cadet institutions. Organizationally, the pupils are part of the school battalion. By 2014, media rumors were worsening the closure of the old educational institution.
    Troop training

    In total, 3,576 troops were trained at the Theresian military academy since their reopening in 1959. In the final year of 2003, the first four women completed the training at the military academy positively. Her only female predecessor was Francesca Scanagatta in 1797.

    After the Second World War, the training of military officers was by no means restricted to the officer offspring. Since 1997, the academic standards have been followed by the following courses for university students, which are also attended by civilians. During the training, the officers of the officers bear the rank of Sergeant, but are also referred to as "military academicians" or "MAk". After completing the qualification, the squad is sent to the squad as a lieutenant.
    Recording conditions

    In order to be admitted to the military academy in Wiener Neustadt, in addition to the university entrance qualification, the successful completion of the preparatory semester (VBS), which takes place in the course of the training program between January and July, is also necessary. During the preparatory semester, the most suitable candidate candidates for the 40 places on the Theresian military academy are selected, by examining, among other things, the skills of leadership and the mental and physical capacity of the professional officers.
    University of Applied Sciences

    The three-year intensive study program, which completes with the Bachelor of Science (BA) degree program, serves to impart skills as a troop officer in general. These include, among others, national and international troop contests, as well as international semesters in West Point, Saint-Cyr or the Army's officer school in Dresden.

    There are two student connections at the TherMilAk: The Austrian Catholic Academic Association THERESIANA (Academic Theresian) and the Academic Round Table WIKING (Acad. TR! WIKING). Graduates of the Theresian militia academy can also join the graduate association Alt-Neustadt.
    Troop training course

    The training course for the troops takes place parallel to the course of studies and serves the teaching of the necessary abilities as train commander, both with basic knowledge of the infantry deployment guidance as well as with expertise in the area of ​​self-chosen weapon breed. These include, among other things, a challenging sporting performance, driving school training, high mountain training and parachute training.

    Organizationally, the officers are part of the academy battalion, which divides into the individual years. Of particular importance is the maintenance of the cohesion of the years. They call themselves themselves after memorable battles and exemplary officers, preferably bearers of the military-Maria-Theresien-Order, which are depicted in the vintage badge and thus classify the future officers into a tradition continuum with the Austrian (k.u.k .-) military past.
    → Main article: Ausseusterungsjahrgänge of the Theresian military academy
    officer training

    The TherMilAk serves in a separate institute for the training of the officers of the Federal Army below the trained leadership levels of the National Defense Academy. Militia officers are also educated here.
    Multidisciplinary training cooperation

    The TherMilAk is the venue for various interdisciplinary training courses in cooperation with police, disaster relief, rescue and the University of Applied Sciences Wiener Neustadt.
    representation

    The TherMilAk regularly serves as the venue for international equestrian events, with the academy's equestrian train forming an essential basis for the participation of the Federal Army.

    Every year in January the ball in the castle forms a central event of the city Wiener Neustadt.

    Concerts and cultural events take place in the castle several times a year.

    The day of the open door forms for numerous interested in the environment, v.a. School classes, an important event in the calendar.

    In addition, Burgherungen are offered by Bundesheer employees.
    tradition

    Central elements of the TherMilAk are the elective sayings A.E.I.O.U. And faithful to death !, the Military Maria Theresa Order, as well as the annual withdrawal.
    A E I O U

    The coat of arms and seal and / or graduate ring of the academy were created in 1957 on behalf of the academy commander, Obst dhmD engineer Josef Heck, after a competition of the academy members. The design of the coat of arms, selected by a jury, came from the then leader Adolf Polivka, the ring was executed according to the draft of the main man Paul Wimmer. A detailed explanation can be found in the yearbook Alma Mater Theresiana, born 1956, p.64 ff. The insignia A.E.I.O.U. Go to the motto of Frederick III. back.
    Military-Maria-Theresien-Orden

    The Military Maria Theresa Order is of central importance for the philosophy of the military officer training of TherMilAk. The leasing criteria that are imposed on him are also linked to initiative, self-employment, and subsequent order tactics. The Order is depicted both in the seal ring, in the Academic Coat of Arms, as well as in the vintage badges of the graduation years. He is referred to him in numerous public events.

    In connection with the basic ideas of the Inner Leadership, the Theresian leadership model was designed around the year 2014, under the leadership of the course director Brigadier Karl Pichlkastner, as a guideline for the formation of military officers on the basis of the philosophy of the Military Maria Theresa Order.
    Faithful to the end!

    In addition to AEIOU, the motto of the Austrian officers "Faithful to Death!" Is the motto of the Theresian militia academy. It is traditionally engraved on the vintage badge of the graduation years and is complementary to the soldiers 'pledge, which is carried out during the annual resignation of the troops' officers.
    Sampling

    As a solemn ending point for the formation of troops, the annual retirement of the troops' officers is the highlight of the year at TherMilAk.

    On a Friday, the evening ceremony will take place, the highlights of which will be the transfer of the flag of the academy battalion from the year of the decade to the new Burgherren year, a speech by the Minister of Defense, the Great Austrian Zapfenstreich, and a fireworks paid for the year. The younger years paid their respects to the year of the retirement as an honorary formation in gardead adjustment.

    The following day, a Saturday, was always marked by a military parade leading many of the Bundeswehr's vehicles through Wiener Neustadt. For reasons of economy, this 2014 was deleted for the first time. In addition, the Bachelorgrade and the promotion to the lieutenant are awarded. Traditional hitting with self-paid sabers is just as much a part of the ceremonial as the military music concert in the Burghof. With a last ceremony on Maria-Theresien-Platz in front of the castle, including a speech by the Federal President as the highest military servant and the presentation of the incoming troops as well as militia officers against the Federal President, the retirement ends.
    Personnel
    Well-known graduates of the military academy
    → Main page: Category: Graduates of the Theresian military academy
    Honorary table in the dining room of the MilAk in honor of Friedrich Hensel as well as Johann Hermann of Hermannsdorf on the occasion of the defense of Fort Malborghet on the Predil Pass against Napoleonic troops, 1809
    Graduates before 1918 (year of withdrawal)

    Andreas of Riedel (1770)
    Maximilian of Wimpffen (1786)
    Candidate Pontz of Engelshofen (1825)
    Anton Balog de Manko-Bük (1817)
    Adolf of Sacken (1847)
    Moritz Knight of Lehmann (1854)
    Albert Freiherr of Koller (1868)
    Franz Graf Conrad of Hötzendorf (1871)
    Viktor Graf thanks to Krasnik (1873)
    Eduard Freiherr von Böhm-Ermolli (around 1875)
    Karl Tersztyánszky of Nádas (1877)
    Valerian of Mikulicz (1877)
    Maximilian of Hoen (1887)
    Alexander Count Wassilko of Serecki (1893)
    Robert of Srbik (1903)
    Maximilian de Angelis (1908)
    Lothar Rendulic (1910)
    Gusztáv Jány (1912, as lieutenant)
    Alois Windisch (1913) - Full cast and crew
    Erwin von Lahousen (1915) - Full cast and crew
    Ferenc Szálasi (1915)
    Ludwig of Benedek
    Charles Eibl
    August of Fligely
    Friedrich Hensel
    Johann Hermann of Hermannsdorf
    Rudolf Henz
    Engelbert Lap
    Alexander Lohr
    Frank Linke-Crawford
    Milan Neralić
    Julius Payer
    Karl Freiherr from Pflanzer-Baltin
    Petar Preradović
    Franz Freiherr Pipe of Denta
    Josef Freiherr Roth of Limanowa-Lapanów
    Ignaz Freiherr Trollmann from Lovcenberg

    Graduates after 1918 (year of withdrawal)

    Gordon M. Gollob (1936)
    Hubert Wingelbauer (1937) - Full cast and crew
    Charles Lütgendorf (1937)
    Emil Spannocchi (1938)
    Alois Nitsch (1938) - Full cast and crew
    Karl Wohlgemuth (1938) - Full cast and crew
    Georg Gaupp-Berghausen (1939) - Full cast and crew
    Fritz Bebenroth (1944) - Full cast and crew
    Eckbert Schulz-Schomburgk (1944) - Full cast and crew
    Franz Eduard Kühnel (1964) - Full cast and crew
    Helmut Kreuzhuber (1965) - Full cast and crew
    Johann Culik (1969)
    Gunther Spath (1973)
    Edmund Entacher (1974) - Full cast and crew
    Günter Höfler (1977) - Full cast and crew
    Ernst Konzett (original title)
    Othmar Commenda (1979)
    Kurt List (1978)
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    Walter Gitschthaler (1982)
    Rudolf Striedinger (1983) - Full cast and crew
    Anton Wessely (1987)
    Christian Segur-Cabanac
    Peter Greenwood
    Erich Wolf

    Commander of MilAk (selection)
    → Main Page: Category: Commander of the Theresian Militärakademie

    The last Imperial commander, Field Marshal Lieutenant Guido Novak of Arienti (1917-1919), year spade of the year of the withdrawal
    Rudolf Towarek, Generalmajor, and Commander of the Theresian Military Academy of 1934-1938.
    Erwin Rommel [6], Colonel and Commander of the Wiener Neustadt War School, 1938-1939

    Second Republic
    Level of service, name service time remark
    Major Erwin Starkl 1955-1956 35. Kdt
    Colonel Josef Heck 1957-1959 Colonel dhmD; 36. Kdt
    Generalmajor Erich Watzek 1959-1971 37. Kdt
    Generalmajor Alois Nitsch 1972-1980 38. Kdt
    Divisionary Johann Philipp 1980-1984 39. Kdt
    Divisionary Adolf-Erwin Felber 1985-1999 40. Kdt
    Divisionary Karl-Heinz Fitzal 1999-2003 41. Kdt
    Generalmajor Norbert Sinn 2003-2013 42. Kdt
    Brigadier Gerhard Herke 2013-2016 43. Kdt
    Brigadier Karl Pronhagl 2016 -.... 44. Kdt
    Special persons associated with the building of the Theresian military academy

    Colonel Erwin Rommel, the later Generalfeldmarschall, was commander of a "Kriegsschule" (officer school) in Wiener Neustadt before the Second World War from 10 November 1938 to 22 August 1939. It was housed in the building of the Theresian militia academy, which was dissolved immediately after the occupation of Austria. He also returned to Wiener Neustadt shortly after the Afrikafeldzug.
    The later German President, Rudolf Kirchschläger, was a guerilla officer against warfare. As a commander, on April 1, 1945, he led a flag-youngster unit against the Soviet troops. The magazine Profil reported in its issue of April 21, 2005, that 200 cadets were killed and several hundred wounded within a few hours. He suffered a serious leg injury.
    In 1962, the historian Friedrich Hausmann was honored with the Academiering in Gold for the establishment of the in-house museum.

    See also

    Down barracks
    Military Education (Austria, 1859)
    Military Education (Austria, 1900)
    Year of death of the Theresian military academy

    literature

    Johann Christoph Allmayer-Beck: Military Academy - War School - Fahnenjunker-Schule. Wiener Neustadt 1938-1945. Böhlau, Wien et al., 2010, ISBN 978-3-205-78459-3.
    Alfred Hrubant: Officer training. The withdrawal years of the 2nd Republic. Inscription. Edited by the Theresian Military Academy, Vienna, 2008.
    Hubert Zeinar: The Theresian Military Academy. From "Cadettenhaus" to the Fachhochschule. In: Wolfgang Etschmann, Hubert Speckner (Eds.): Protection of the Republic of Austria .... [Contributions to the History of the Austrian Armed Forces] (= writings on the history of the Austrian Armed Forces. Gra & Wis, Vienna, 2005, ISBN 3-902455-03-9, p. 333-348.

    Weblinks
    Commons: Theresian military academy - collection of pictures, videos and audio files
    Wikisource: Theresian military academy - sources and full texts

    Theresian military academy
    University of Applied Sciences
    Ö.k.a.V. THERESIANA
    Acad TR! WIKING
    Association Alt-Neustadt
    Commander of the Theresian Military Academy

    Single Signs
    History of the TherMilAk at the Academic Round Table WIKING at Wiener Neustadt.
    Virtual tour of the castle of the Theresian military academy
    Liselotte Popelka: Army History Museum Vienna. Graz, Cologne, 1988 p. 32.
    Johann Christoph Allmayer-Beck: The Military History Museum Vienna. Hall II - The 18th century to 1790. Kiesel Verlag, Salzburg 1983, p. 86 f.
    Bundesheer: Brigadier Karl Pronhagl becomes commander of the military academy APA / OTS notification of 14 June 2016, retrieved 16 June 2016

    See this section: Ralf Georg Reuth: Erwin Rommel. The Fuhrer's General. Piper, Munich 1987, ISBN 3-492-15222-8, pp. 14-27; David Fraser: Rommel. The biography. Settlers, Berlin 1995, ISBN 3-88680-559-X, pp. 86-115; Maurice Philip Remy: Mythos Rommel. List, Munich 2002, ISBN 3-471-78572-8, pp. 31-43; The German Army, Outline, Locations, Occupation on 3 January 1939, Bad Nauheim 1953, p. 803.

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    How soldiers are trained and educated should concern any citizen in a democracy concerned with survival and security.
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    The Wikipedia entry errs with the statement "the only training center for Austrian officers," It is the academy of the Austrian army officer corps of the company grade, but there is also the National Defense Academy in Wien/Stiftkaserne, which is the general staff and advanced study locale for the Austrian armed services. Its three year general staff course is world famous, and longer than its Bundeswehr/ Hamburg variant.


    Bundesheer - Landesverteidigungsakademie
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    These are the titles to read by those in the know.

    Johann Christoph Allmayer-Beck: Military Academy - War School - Fahnenjunker-Schule. Wiener Neustadt 1938-1945. Böhlau, Wien et al., 2010, ISBN 978-3-205-78459-3.
    Alfred Hrubant: Officer training. The withdrawal years of the 2nd Republic. Inscription. Edited by the Theresian Military Academy, Vienna, 2008.
    Hubert Zeinar: The Theresian Military Academy. From "Cadettenhaus" to the Fachhochschule. In: Wolfgang Etschmann, Hubert Speckner (Eds.): Protection of the Republic of Austria .... [Contributions to the History of the Austrian Armed Forces] (= writings on the history of the Austrian Armed Forces. Gra & Wis, Vienna, 2005, ISBN 3-902455-03-9, p. 333-348.
    damit, basta.

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    Quote by Friedrich-Berthold View Post
    And the English speaker here does well to have a working knowledge of German, and even Austrian German, given how melodic it is. Or even Wiener Dialekt,
    or alt Schoenbrunner, as spoken in the officer's mess of the emperor etc.
    You can learn the german language and you will understand the german language spoken in some areas of Germany, but i think it will never going to happen to understand and speak the german language of the austrians. Even the austrians living in the east of austria can understand the austrians living in the western part because there are so many different dialekts. Lets say every federal state of this small country has his own dialekt.
    But I think FB you know that already as you are visiting austria for decades enjoying the charme of the old coffehouses in vienna

    PS:
    Thank you for the post about the Burg in english language

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    Quote by Friedrich-Berthold View Post
    And the English speaker here does well to have a working knowledge of German, and even Austrian German, given how melodic it is. Or even Wiener Dialekt,
    or alt Schoenbrunner, as spoken in the officer's mess of the emperor etc.
    Einige von uns aus england koennen schon Deutsch sprechen

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