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    Anyone which Regt this cap is from ? it has green piping along the top , i was thinking it may one of the Rifle Regt but not sure thank you for any help
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    Hi, Very nice side caps and in excellent condition!! I have detailed below, some of the uses for the red cap band but additionall, squadrons and trade groups were usually identified by the use of small arm discs located behind the apprentice/BE wheel badge and large cap and beret discs behind the cap badge. Seniority in rank was by means of upper arm chevrons and lanyards whilst seniority was shown using inverted chevrons worn on the lower sleave. Similarly, appointments were were distinguished by lower are chevrons. Chevrons were of a miniature style and tended to have straight rather than curves arms.

    Hope this is of interest to you?

    Cheers Michael R



    Distinctive cap bands were worn by both Apprentices and Boy Entrants and at various times, were used to identify schools, wings, squadrons, trades or even flights. Coloured cap bands were initially suggested by Air Commodore FR Scarlett who submitted the idea to the Air Ministry in circa 1920, as a method of identification. Since their introduction, a variety of both plain and chickened bands have been employed and their use amended over the years. An outline of these cap bands is detailed below but is probably not comprehensive as bands were introduced, withdrawn and reintroduced over the years. Some schools amended their use from wings to squadrons and back to wings or from trades to schools etc. To detail every band for every period of time and for every use, would take a volume in its own right.

    a. Red

    (1) Originally allocated to RAF Halton
    (2) RAF Halton C Squadron
    (3) RAF Flowerdown
    (4) RAF Cranwell School
    (5) RAF Halton Number 3 Wing
    (6) RAF Halton Number 2 Wing
    (7) RAF Halton C Squadron
    (8) RAF Halton Number 1 Wing
    (9) RAF Locking D Squadron

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    Quote by kradman View Post
    Anyone which Regt this cap is from ? it has green piping along the top , i was thinking it may one of the Rifle Regt but not sure thank you for any help
    It is not easy to be sure of the colours from these pictures and I can't make out the buttons at all.

    However, if the crown is also green as is the piping and peak (folded up behind the buttoned flaps) I would say that the only unit it could be is The Inns of Court Regt (1932 title) which is a Territorial Army unit now part of the R.Sigs and today is styled (since 1961 amalgamation with City of London Yeomanry) The Inns of Court and City Yeomanry. For interest the name Inns of Court refers to the four "Inns of Court" (Lincolns Inn, The Inner Temple, Greys Inn and The Middle Temple) in the City of London which together make up the professional body governing solicitors and barristers in England and Wales. They are no longer Inns in the traditional meaning but do originate from times when many of the judicial processes in the country were carried on in ale houses (not much change then !!) as convenient public buildings.

    The regiment is associated with the legal profession in the same way that units such as The Artist Rifles, The Frontiersmen etc.

    Sorry to waffle but there was almost certainly going to a question about The Inns of Court

    Hope this helps

    Mark
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares more about than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature with no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

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    Thankyou for your reply,the cap has GS buttons,the main body is black with a dark green front and dark green top to the top ,

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    Quote by kradman View Post
    Thankyou for your reply,the cap has GS buttons,the main body is black with a dark green front and dark green top to the top ,
    Yep, that will be Inns of Court then.
    I'm not sure if it should have GS buttons but I think that might be the case. I'm kind of interested now though and will see what I can find ou.

    Regards

    Mark
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares more about than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature with no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

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    OR's caps nearly always have GS buttons, it is usually only officers caps that have regimental or corps buttons
    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

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    Thank you all ,yes Mark you are spot on

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    Heres another one for reference, Catering Corps.
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    "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist...."
    - Major-General John Sedgwick, 9 may 1864.
    Killed by a sniper during the battle of Spotsylvania..

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    Heres a couple more, I know Michael has already shown a nice RAMC version.
    thought id post up an OR version for reference.

    Officers:

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    O/R:

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    "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist...."
    - Major-General John Sedgwick, 9 may 1864.
    Killed by a sniper during the battle of Spotsylvania..

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    After posting the above, i think that the officers one is a female version.....
    the way it is buttoned up to the front is the female way, i have only seen this on ATS F/S caps????

    a bit more digging and i found the following in "World War II Allied Nursing Services"
    By Martin Brayley

    "During the war, 150 female doctors served with the RAMC with equal rank and status to male doctors. Candidates had to be qualified as doctors prior to joining and one accepted for service they attended a four week basic training course to introduce them to army life and routines before being sent on their first postings. Upon commissioning, doctors held the rank of lieutenant with automatic promotion to captain following 12 months satisfactory service; specialists could hold the rank of major. While a number of medical posts were open to female MOs the majority were employed in the care of ATS personnel in a general practitioner role, at training and mixed AA units or as district MOs.
    Female medical officers wore ATS officers uniform with RAMC buttons and collar badges; the ATS cap with RAMC badge, or RAMC coloured field service cap.


    It is named J PAUL.
    I can find
    name: MISS J W, Paul
    Nationality: British
    Information: Commissioned under the Women's Forces (Officers Commissions) Order, 1941.
    More Information: M.B. (Bachelor of Medicine).
    Rank: Lieutenant
    Rank (2nd): W/S Captain
    Regiment: Royal Army Medical Corps
    Battalion: Women Officers Employed

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    "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist...."
    - Major-General John Sedgwick, 9 may 1864.
    Killed by a sniper during the battle of Spotsylvania..

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