Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 17

A quiet unusual worcestershire cap

Article about: It is made in Antwerp... Any thoughts!?

  1. #1

    Default A quiet unusual worcestershire cap

    It is made in Antwerp...
    Any thoughts!?
    Click to enlarge the picture Click to enlarge the picture Click image for larger version. 

Name:	britse pet made in a'pen en hond 002.JPG 
Views:	42 
Size:	93.1 KB 
ID:	964319   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	britse pet made in a'pen en hond 003.JPG 
Views:	49 
Size:	180.2 KB 
ID:	964320  

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	britse pet made in a'pen en hond 004.JPG 
Views:	49 
Size:	182.3 KB 
ID:	964321  
    Always looking for Belgian Congo stuff!
    cheers
    |<ris

  2. #2

    Default

    The cap cords don't look British and no Regt buttons

  3. #3

    Default

    No, indeed the cord is Belgian.
    Always looking for Belgian Congo stuff!
    cheers
    |<ris

  4. #4

    Default

    Quote by kradman View Post
    The cap cords don't look British and no Regt buttons
    Yep these two points are clearly wrong.

    It's not possible to authenticate the badge from these pics but it does look right for a pre 1925 (therefore correct for WWI) Worcester Regt all brass version.

    Given that although the cap is obviously not British it is the right colours for a British infantry regiment. This and the presence of a modern Haig fund "poppy" suggests to me that this is connected to the annual Belgian remembrance services at places like the Menin Gate at Ypres perhaps?

    Regards

    Mark

    PS If the badge is correct and as I say it looks OK, it is worth having on it's own so as long as the cap was not expensive the deal is probably not a loss.
    Last edited by Watchdog; 05-20-2016 at 03:43 PM. Reason: PS
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares more about than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature with no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

  5. #5

    Default

    Thanks both for the reply.

    I'll add pic's of the badge when I manage to get it off.
    It is no secret that many British soldiers found the love of theyre life during they stay in Antwerp, and part of them stayed here as well.
    So could it be that a former Worcester Regt soldier (who lived here) had the cap made to participate to rememberens services.
    To me the cap must have been made in the mid sixties...
    Always looking for Belgian Congo stuff!
    cheers
    |<ris

  6. #6

    Default

    Here are more details.
    Click to enlarge the picture Click to enlarge the picture Click image for larger version. 

Name:	kenteken 001.JPG 
Views:	16 
Size:	102.9 KB 
ID:	964349   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	kenteken 002.JPG 
Views:	16 
Size:	95.5 KB 
ID:	964350  

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	kenteken 003.JPG 
Views:	14 
Size:	181.5 KB 
ID:	964351  
    Always looking for Belgian Congo stuff!
    cheers
    |<ris

  7. #7

    Default

    I must say that the thought of an ex-pat soldier had occurred to me but I didn't want to make such a "pink and fluffy" suggestion!

    With the badge removed I am pretty sure I can see signs of a national cockade having been fitted above a regimental device other than the Worcesters badge. So, the ex-pat theory being correct this would be a re-cycled hat rather than one specially made.

    The badge I am not altogether sure about; the points of the star are a little rounded for my liking, the slider is fixed in an unusual position for this badge and the reverse detail is a little soft especially inside the circlet where it looks rather blurred. These may be differences between makers and there were quite a few, mostly unmarked. Also, this badge pattern was in use from the late 19th century until 1925.

    The problem is that almost all British cap badges from 1914 onwards are still made and sold in regimental museums. They are not sold to deceive in these cases but are obviously not originals and many subsequently end up being passed off as such

    I am not saying yours is not original, just for the above reasons I am not sure about it.
    The combination of the very good obverse and blurry reverse always makes me step back

    The best thing to do is find a collector locally who knows British badges and have them hold it in hand. Unlike any other nations badges I find this is the best way because one develops a "nose" for these things. It is likely OK but you want to know either way don't you?

    Here is one in my collection. As you can see the obverse has some wear from age which is difficult to replicate and the reverse has a definition from a firm strike although this is not easy to photgraph in this particular case.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Worcester obv.jpg 
Views:	14 
Size:	248.5 KB 
ID:	964378Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Worcester rev.jpg 
Views:	11 
Size:	216.8 KB 
ID:	964379

    Regards

    Mark
    Last edited by Watchdog; 05-20-2016 at 05:35 PM. Reason: typo
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares more about than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature with no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

  8. #8

    Default

    Thanks for your time Mark.
    |<
    Always looking for Belgian Congo stuff!
    cheers
    |<ris

  9. #9

    Default

    As already stated, pimped Belgian cap. Kris, do you know which unit the cap was for, is it military? The Belgian ca I own has national buttons on it with the lion but I notice this has plain buttons.
    Click to enlarge the picture Click to enlarge the picture Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Belgian medical officers montage.jpg 
Views:	19 
Size:	272.4 KB 
ID:	964669  
    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

  10. #10

    Default

    Hey Jerry,
    there is no Belgian organisation I can think about using this kind of cap's.
    The only who come close could be the salvation army, but it doesn't match them eighter.
    Judging by the label it dates from the 1960 ties. But that is as far as I can identify it.
    Always looking for Belgian Congo stuff!
    cheers
    |<ris

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. 09-29-2010, 01:40 AM
  2. a quiet stroll down by the river

    In Battlefield history and relics
    08-05-2009, 08:51 PM
  3. 05-06-2009, 02:39 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •