Royal Navy Officer's Cap King's Crown

[paul kennedy]

Can anyone tell me about how old this cap is by the Grieve's label? Is it WWII?

[Jerry B]

The version of the makers logo is that for WWII and the all metal badge which I think was only really used during WWII, though I assume some carried on in use until stocks were exhausted.

A very nice example.

[paul kennedy]

Thank you very much.

[Adrian Stevenson]

I would agree with Jerry comments and say wartime too.

Cheers, Ade.

[Ocad]

Nice cap with character. I would agree with Jerry. If the badge is originally to the cap, which it may well be as these economy badges didn't like to take the shape of the cap band, then I would say its a late WW2 cap. However you could trace the name in the cap to get a more precise date.

I have had a quick look and the only F. R. Assinder is from WW1 RFC, which certainly doesn't fit with the cap, unless the Officer served in WW2, which could happen.

[paul kennedy]

Thank you all.

[douglas2496]

The cap is certainly pre 1945 and the circular pattern of lining is usually associated with pre 1939 made caps, and is commonly seen in ww1 caps (though I agree that the badge is wartime) I have a wartime Gieves naval cap and the liner style is completely different.

[BobS]

Here is my wartime cap, which was made by Gieves; their logo can bsrely be seen up close, but not in the photos.
Named to a Surgeon-Captain on the sweatband.

BobS

[paul kennedy]

There is an F. R. StC. Assinder MRCS, LRCP [Pytchley] Sg(L) Seniority 3.9.43 in the Navy List: February, 1944, Vol. I

[Ocad]

Fantastic. I had a look in the London Gazette but couldn#t find much. although perhaps you have to try a few combinations.

but in Navy Lists of 1943 its states... Frank Rea St.Clair Assinder RNVR.

If this is the same man, then I would say the badge (with/without band) was either added to the cap later, or the cap a late war replacement.