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Stripped Officers SD cap

Article about: Arrived today, it had been stripped so I have added a badge and a modified OR's strap until I can get officers examples. The maker was in business since at least the 30's and was still going

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    Arrived today, it had been stripped so I have added a badge and a modified OR's strap until I can get officers examples.

    The maker was in business since at least the 30's and was still going into the 60's and beyond. As a bit of useless trivia, the company was owned by the adoptive father of Jon Moss, one time drummer of Culture club and other bands.
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    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

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    Another nice hat Jerry, well done!
    Have so far stayed away from hats as I have no idea how to date them.
    All the best
    Rod

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    Hi Jerry, nice bit of "useless" info, did not know that one. Lez has several shirts in the Countess' grouping made by Alkit.

    Hi Rod, that is one of the tricky problems with SD caps. Wartime ones and early 50's are essentially the same.

    Cheers, Ade.
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    I was told that one way to tell wartime against post war was to examine the side chinstrap buttons, as its the royal coat of arms the crown should help to make a decision

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    Hi Dave, broadly speaking that is correct.

    However, a 1944 made cap with Kings Crown buttons is really no different to a 1952 made one as the buttons did not change until 1953 at the earliest.

    Cheers, Ade.
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    Quote by davejb View Post
    I was told that one way to tell wartime against post war was to examine the side chinstrap buttons, as its the royal coat of arms the crown should help to make a decision
    For sure, as long as they have not been messed with. This one has Kings crowns, but this other example I posted recently has obviously had it's buttons and badge changed making it impossible to date for manufacture. It know has QEII buttons and badge, but when I look at the interior the badge has been reapplied with the same black thread that the buttons are attached with. It might all be period done or just reapplication of its missing original insignia or a period upgrade from Kings crowns insignia to QEII insignia or an incorrect restoration etc....
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    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

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    Another nice hat Jerry, well done!
    Have so far stayed away from hats as I have no idea how to date them.
    All the best
    Rod
    This other example I posted recently with the green under the peak are pre or early WWII and are the easiest to tell as to when they were made.
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    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

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    Quote by davejb View Post
    I was told that one way to tell wartime against post war was to examine the side chinstrap buttons, as its the royal coat of arms the crown should help to make a decision
    Also the type & style of the badge might be useful, as long as it has not been messed with, as with this example with Kings crown buttons and wartime plastic GS badge with Kings crown, as shown by this other example I showed recently.
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    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

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    Thanks folks
    I read you threads with the green under peak and GS badge Jerry earlier, and have took a mental note because they are useful piece’s of information that i never knew, thanks for sharing.
    Was at an auction the other week and there were a couple of British caps and six German visor caps but I stayed clear due to ignorance. I will have to educate my self.

    Cheers guys
    Rod
    Also like your Zukerman Jerry.

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    Thanks for the info Ade , but if the button is a staybright it can still be Kings Crown as staybright was introduced from about 1950, and these are pretty rare, obviously a nice pair of brass kings crown would be ideal on a wartime cap

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