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Black-SS Visor Hat, Herst. 59

Article about: Hello Friends, nice RZM Black-SS Visor Hat. I think good RZM Tag. Please all opinions are welcome. What is real price for it in this condition without insignias? Regards Milan

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    Default Black-SS Visor Hat, Herst. 59

    Hello Friends,

    nice RZM Black-SS Visor Hat. I think good RZM Tag.

    Please all opinions are welcome.

    What is real price for it in this condition without insignias?

    Regards Milan

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    Default Re: Black-SS Visor Hat, Herst. 59

    A1 or A2 (I think the former...) 59 is Karl Isken, Cologne.

    Yours is a Sonderanferitigung, that is, extra wear cap for other ranks with the first kind of black tag.

    Someone else posted a Wille variety of this cap recently in better shape and also with what as likely the RFSS tag under the rhombus.

    It is in kind of average condition. Your challenge with this piece is to find the altsilber, or neusilber cap badges, which are among the most confounding and vexxing pieces of SS insignia to secure for just this purpose.

    The sweat band may have been fiddled with, too, maybe...

    I cannot generalize about prices.

    But, it is one thing that many things that appear on websites are not: it is real, that is, authentic. It also shows the march of time, and there is some poetry in this fact, too.

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    Default Re: Black-SS Visor Hat, Herst. 59

    Here is its officer brother from two years before....
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    Default Re: Black-SS Visor Hat, Herst. 59

    another tag of the same era from the same Hersteller...you can see this tag to be close in time to the one in the newly posted Czech piece.
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    Default Re: Black-SS Visor Hat, Herst. 59

    Here is a Sonderanfertigung tag....by the way, this term is still widespread in German tailoring and fashion wear...
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    Default Re: Black-SS Visor Hat, Herst. 59

    It is my silly theory that this kind of black tag was from about 1937, but I am sure someone knows better. From about 1934 until 1937, these caps often had the RFSS tag under the rhombus as shown in the above illustration. I believe that the Bevo tags of all kinds were phased out thereafter....

    If I have made an error here, please correct me.

    Happy collecting.
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    Default Re: Black-SS Visor Hat, Herst. 59

    Apropos the "x6" mark in the sweat band, I have no idea what it means, unless it means: 56 cms. However, I do not know.

    Greetings to Czechia. I long for plumb dumplings.
    Last edited by Friedrich-Berthold; 08-03-2008 at 01:43 PM.

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    Default Re: Black-SS Visor Hat, Herst. 59

    Hello Friedrich,

    Thank You for your nice and very interesting words.

    It help me very mutch.

    Milan

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    Default Re: Black-SS Visor Hat, Herst. 59

    Quote by milan12 View Post
    Hello Friedrich,

    Thank You for your nice and very interesting words.

    It help me very mutch.

    Milan
    Thanks for yours. Happy collecting. You can join the struggling crowd who seeks this insignia without going bankrupt.

    Servus, FB

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ID:	345249Carl Isken, Koeln.
    damit, basta.

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