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Don't tell me they would'nt have worn it..........

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    Nothing unusual going on here--except for the fact that they are pictures of the same General, but the one on the right was taken 30 years after the end of WW2.
    (it is swords winner Otto Hitzfeld--however, he never physically received the award prior to the end of the war).

    Just more proof that not all photos are what they seem....

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    Would the EK2 spange and long service devices be the originals worn in defiance of the "banned symbol" law?
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    Quote by Danmark View Post
    Would the EK2 spange and long service devices be the originals worn in defiance of the "banned symbol" law?
    Yes; all of the Third Reich-era decorations on the medal bar are the original versions rather than the 1957 ones, and they even include one - the Sudetenland medal- that was banned from wear altogether.

    However, as long as he only put them on for a private portrait photograph rather than in public, he didn't break the law, actually.

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ID:	809874Former generals in the FRG did not make a habit of parading around in such uniforms fully decked out with such symbology.

    Whereas in the inter war period, former soldiers wore their uniforms in the civilian world as a badge of honor, the most notable of which was GFM Mackensen, the anti military mood in West Germany

    meant anything but. The picture of the man in question also does not look like it is from the 1970s, either, actually.

    Is it dated somehow?

    As Mr. Mint says, pictures are often misleading.
    damit, basta.

  6. #125

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    as Andreas will tell us, in the 1950s FRG, the caste of generals was seen either in tragic or less than flattering terms, as in this famous film of Carl Zuckmayer, who had known Ernst Udet.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bo2JSiZwaY
    damit, basta.

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    Quote by Friedrich-Berthold View Post
    as Andreas will tell us, in the 1950s FRG, the caste of generals was seen either in tragic or less than flattering terms, as in this famous film of Carl Zuckmayer, who had known Ernst Udet.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bo2JSiZwaY
    A fine drama, although I haven't seen it in ages, admittedly.

    I must say, I actually watched quite a lot of German 1950s b & w films set in the WW2-era in my youth, when they were more frequently aired on TV than nowadays. I still think the fact that the cast and crew of these productions had lived through the war years (and often even served in the Wehrmacht) gave them a sense of authenticity not easily copied today.

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    Quote by HPL2008 View Post
    A fine drama, although I haven't seen it in ages, admittedly.

    I must say, I actually watched quite a lot of German 1950s b & w films set in the WW2-era in my youth, when they were more frequently aired on TV than nowadays. I still think the fact that the cast and crew of these productions had lived through the war years (and often even served in the Wehrmacht) gave them a sense of authenticity not easily copied today.
    Dear Andreas, I agree with you totally. The dimension of human authenticity, you say, is overwhelming, and like so much else, is gone forever.
    All the best to you.
    damit, basta.

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    Des Teufels General is in You Tube, and I watch if often.

    You Tube is a blessing for all of this.
    damit, basta.

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    Quote by Danmark View Post
    Would the EK2 spange and long service devices be the originals worn in defiance of the "banned symbol" law?
    Here is the Allies take on insignia and awards:
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    which was, in turn, followed by laws and regulations in the FRG on said issue. The approach in Austria was different, since it was Austria.
    damit, basta.

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