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HJ Bannfuhrer im Stab Schirmmütze

Article about: Here is a wild photo showing the wear of the M-33 / M-34 Hitler Youth visor after 1939:

  1. #11

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    Rare and a stunner. I like it very much well done!

    Cheers, Pat

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    Thanks for the kind comments.

    I forgot to post this overhead shot:
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    Lovely cap! I hope you don't mind that its not a "sole survivor". Like yours, this one's been updated with a later eagle, and also a chincord...

    Cheers,
    Arran.

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    D**n Arran, there goes my claim to being the only one! Yours is obviously by a different maker than mine--does it have an RZM tag?
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    No tag or any evidence that there was one. Like yours, It has minimal padding and an alkor type sweatband. They both seem to have very similar visors too...

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    Aaran-
    Welcome to our Forum. What a spectacular hat. It appears to be in the same pristeen condition as Stoney's. These need to be in the next Saris "Headgear of Hitler's Germany" as the subject is the youth organizations.
    BOB

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    Stonemint: the color for the cap band is that crimson? I can't see this.
    Would like to see a front shot. As Bob says this one eventually might be
    useful for my volume 6.

    The cap from Arran seems to have a bright red cap band, isn't? For staff
    it should be crimson. As far as I know and in my opinion, the 1937 eagle
    does not belong to this cap at all, as neither do the white cords, nor the
    white piping do. To me the cords look as from whitish silk!!

    This cap suggests to be from about 1937 or even later, but then the band
    already had to be black (in use since 1936) and the pipings silver. In fact since
    about March 1935 the cap band should have silver pipings. The crimson color
    disappeared. High ranked functions in a staff did wear 3 golden pipings; lower ranks
    did wear silver pipings and no colored band at all. Top piping, as well in silver (this I
    thought out of heart. Have no time to check the actual information).
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    Those caps are very special. Thanks for sharing!

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    Bob- thank you for the welcome here.
    Wilhelm- the band is actually more of a true crimson, but the flash makes it look bright red. The cords are in fact silk or some artificial impression thereof. Note the black buttons, which suggest a black leather chinstrap was originally worn, but this is how I got it and I'm loathe to make any changes...

    Cheers,
    Arran.

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    So crimson! But what is not correct is the eagle, nor the cords. They actually were not worn with this cap.
    That's my opinion and is also stated with a regulation.
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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